Morning Knp.
The Italians had no inclination to fight the British and even less the Americans, when they joined the war.
There was also a massive class divide between Officers and the enlisted man. This made morale very low and did not help create a fighting force. Italians were happy to be left alone.
The Italian army was also a foot one. Hardly any units were motorised and that would prove a problem in the vast expanses of desert and the seesaw nature of the campaign.
The British were lucky when they attacked in Dec of 1940 as they had only had limited objectives. The advance was so uncontested, that they kept going until they had Benghazi and Tobruk.
Being Italian, I love to laugh at my WW2 army’s dismal performances and unwillingness to throw their lives away for someone else’s glory.
When the Italians switched sides, however, things got very bloody as civil war broke out amongst the Fascists and Communists. Many Italians proved they were not afraid of dying once they had a real cause and future in which they believed.
My dad’s dad was in Africa, Russia and later ran and hid from the Fascists in Tuscany.
Sub Question
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A sub and two cruisers attack a battleship. No destroyer is present. The battleship sinks from cruiser hits but fires back a hit in defense. Can the attacking sub be chosen as the casualty instead of a cruiser?
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@Der:
A sub and two cruisers attack a battleship. No destroyer is present. The battleship sinks from cruiser hits but fires back a hit in defense. Can the attacking sub be chosen as the casualty instead of a cruiser?
yes. destroyers are required in order to assign hits against subs from aircraft and to cancel the subs other special abilities (submerging, blocking movement, etc). Subs are ALWAYS susceptible to hits from other naval units even if an enemy destroyer is not present.
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if you make a sub submerge, does it still convoy? I just kinda assumed it does.
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@Der:
A sub and two cruisers attack a battleship. No destroyer is present. The battleship sinks from cruiser hits but fires back a hit in defense. Can the attacking sub be chosen as the casualty instead of a cruiser?
Subs are ALWAYS susceptible to hits from other naval units even if an enemy destroyer is not present.
So then if a sub attacks a lone battleship, and misses, the battleship is then allowed to fire against the sub, but a battleship can’t ATTACK a sub unless the sub chooses to let it do so, right?
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@Der:
So then if a sub attacks a lone battleship, and misses, the battleship is then allowed to fire against the sub, but a battleship can’t ATTACK a sub unless the sub chooses to let it do so, right?
To be precise it is like this:
When a battleship in it’s cm enters a seazone with an enemy sub in it, the battleship may choose to either ignore the sub or attack the sub.
When the decision to attack is made, the submarine can choose to either face the attack (having a surprise strike unless there is no destroyer with the battleship)
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if a sub engages yes it can die.
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@Cow:
if you make a sub submerge, does it still convoy? I just kinda assumed it does.
You mean disrupt convoy?
Yes, it does. The decision to submerge is a decision for the Conduct Combat Phase only.
Physically it is removed from the battle strip and placed back on the map.
Convoy disruption takes place later in the Collect Income phase.





