@SuperbattleshipYamato Shocked your not going aggressive with Italy.
SbY (Ax) vs CdS (Al) Europe 1940 2nd
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Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - British British buy 1 carrier, 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Scotland to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 110 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 96 Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone British win with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in 110 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters Germans defend with 1 battleship and 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone British win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26 Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship and 1 submarine Non Combat Move - British 2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to French Central Africa 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 111 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire British take Eire from Neutral_Allies 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone Place Units - British 1 carrier placed in 109 Sea Zone 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 transport placed in 71 Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 34 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0,33 Germans regular : -0,83 British regular : 1,50
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Is there something wrong?
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No, I’m just thinking and figuring out how to respond. Not the best player of the European Axis, nor do I have the most fun (I’ve always preferred the Pacific side).
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Okay, no worries. I dont look at winning or losing the game, but instead at the experience I get out of it. I already count that as a win.
Perhaps after the game we share our thoughts about the game, learn from each other. -
Agreed.
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@SuperbattleshipYamato @cds
Guys, FYI I have changed the topic of your Game thread to match the standards. -
Thanks!
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Hope you made some progress yet with figuring it out, like I said its all about the experience, next time you’ll know what can be improved. So lets play :)
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Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Albania 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Morocco 2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya Italians take Kenya from British 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia Combat - Italians Battle in Gibraltar Battle in 96 Sea Zone Italians attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 fighters in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone Italians win, taking Gibraltar from British with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Morocco Italians attack with 2 infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Morocco, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Morocco Italians win, taking Morocco from French with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in Tunisia Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Tunisia Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in Southern France Italians attack with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Albania: 1 armour EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Romania: 1 armour EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 bomber moved from Southern France to Southern Italy 2 fighters moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya 1 armour moved from Albania to Romania 2 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 2 aaGuns moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy Place Units - Italians 1 fighter placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6 Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : -1.33 Italians regular : 1.17 British regular : 0.67
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By the way I did come up with an alternate set of plays for Italy’s turn 1 in this exact situation (in my head). Would you like me to play those out as well and show it to you? Thank you!
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Game History
Round: 1 Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan 1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa 1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone Turn Complete - French
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in SbY (Ax) vs CdS (Al) Europe 1940 2nd:
By the way I did come up with an alternate set of plays for Italy’s turn 1 in this exact situation (in my head). Would you like me to play those out as well and show it to you? Thank you!
Sure, lets see it. Guess you can have multiple scenarios with Italy in the first round :) Especially when your fleet survived at Taranto.
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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in SbY (Ax) vs CdS (Al) Europe 1940 2nd:
Italy Turn 1 Complete Global 1940.tsvg
Sorry it took a bit of time.
No problem!
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Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia 2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria 2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya Italians take Kenya from British 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya Combat - Italians Battle in Morocco Italians attack with 2 infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 cruisers in Morocco, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Morocco Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Morocco French win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry Battle in Algeria Italians attack with 2 infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 battleship in Algeria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Algeria Italians win, taking Algeria from French with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in Alexandria Italians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Alexandria Italians win, taking Alexandria from British with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Southern France Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 artilleries in Southern France, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Southern France Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 artilleries in Southern France, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery in Southern France, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 96 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters British defend with 1 destroyer Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone Italians win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Tunisia Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Tunisia Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 2 aaGuns and 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 armour moved from Albania to Slovakia Hungary 2 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia Place Units - Italians 1 fighter placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1 Italians collect 15 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 15 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : 2.67 Italians regular : -2.83 British regular : -0.67
Italian Turn 1 Complete Global 1940 Alternate.tsvg
The goal was for Italy to get that North Africa bonus. Didn’t… go so well.
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Yeah, depending on shore bombardement with BB or Cru is always tricky. Landing party does need to have strength on its own. In this case I wouldnt have recommended this alternate attack, because now I can still move into med with UK fleet and take out Italian navy.
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You did see the France turn right?
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Yes.
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Yeah, I always intended for you to go with the first one. Just wanted to demontstrate what was possible.
Maybe if I loaded one of those artilery from Northern Italy and used aircraft to make up the difference…
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Game History
Round: 2 Politics - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 13 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux Combat - Germans Battle in Greece Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Greece, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 3.33 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Greece 4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece Germans win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 3 artilleries, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 6.00 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 3 artilleries, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 3 aaGuns moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Northern Italy 3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from France to Yugoslavia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Western Germany 5 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania 1 artillery moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland 1 artillery moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania 1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania 1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania 1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland 2 bombers moved from Greece to Western Germany 5 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 artillery moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 3 aaGuns moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany Place Units - Germans 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany 1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in Germany 1 artillery and 8 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : -0.67 Neutral_Allies regular : -0.33 Germans regular : -0.33