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barnee vs VictoryFirst EXP Boxes Game 3
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No worries :)
Just thinking about the Italian turn. You attacked Egypt with forces from Alexandria, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. After one round you retreated. All your forces retreated to Alexandria, except for one tank that had to stay because it was offloading from a transport. Now, with the forces in Trans-Jordan and Alexandria, you have the option to attack with the land units and the LCVs separately. The land units move by land and the (empty) LCVs move through sz 98 and attack Egypt. But the artillery in Syria has to move with the LCV to reach Egypt, so therefore it is a seaborne unit and can’t retreat.
No biggie, I mean it would not have that big of an effect on the game, but just pointing out that TripleA apparently doesn’t do that correctly.
Might actually ask that to The Captain to be completely sure that’s how it works. And with the bombards too.
@The-Captain We have a couple of questions again, it would be great if you could help us out. It is about Landing Crafts.
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When amphibiously assaulting with Landing Crafts loaded with units, does the attacker get shore bombardments from Battleships and Cruisers that are in the sea zone for each unloading unit? Or is that only the case when the units unload from a transport?
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When attacking a territory via an amphibious assault with landing crafts and an attack by land, are the units unloading from landing crafts considered as ‘seaborne’ units, and therefore cannot retreat as with the OOB G40 rulebook?
For example, 1 inf from Alexandria attacks Egypt, as well as a landing craft loaded with 1 inf from Syria. No hits were scored by either side, and the attacker decides to retreat. Are both infantry able to retreat to Alexandria, or is the infantry from Syria forced to stay because it is amphibiously assaulting? In other words, does the Landing Craft make a difference in this case? Because if this same move was done with a transport, the inf from Syria was forced to stay.
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1. Battleship units can support amphibious landings from Land Craft units - same rules apply as for an amphibious landing with Transport units.
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The Landing Craft units do NOT count towards the number of Land Units that can be supported by Battleship support shots (why: a Landing Craft unit has no attack value - even if it can be chosen as cannon fodder).2. Land units that attack from a Sea Zone cannot retreat. Since a Landing Craft unit attacks from a Sea Zone (but begins movement from land) this attack operates under OOB rules as with any other amphibious assault.
In other words: all rules concerning this matter are OOB.
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@The-Captain Thanks, Captain 😀
@barnee So yeah you would have indeed gotten an extra bombard in that battle. Let’s just keep things as they are now, that’ll be the easiest solution. But in future games, we might need to roll those battles manually because TripleA doesn’t register stuff correctly when it comes to Landing Crafts.
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Just realized I made a mistake too. The mines in Moscow should have moved to Vologda. You can see in the game report that I did that move on my board lol. Apparently I forgot to do that in TripleA. My intention was to go to Archangel. Am I allowed to fix that, or would that have affected your German turn?
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Russians Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Early 1942 and Comrade Stalin has Ordered Mass Conscription for the Red Army !<br><br>Up to 26 Army Conscripts are Available This Turn Only.<b></body> Trigger Army Conscript: buyArmy_Conscript added to productionRussians Russians buy 25 Army_Conscripts and 1 Soviet_Partisan; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 TankLendLease; Place Units - Russians 1 Soviet_Partisan placed in Caucasus Russians undo move 1. 1 Soviet_Partisan placed in Kazakhstan Combat Move - Russians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 Europe_Rail and 2 Rails placed in Russia 3 Russian_Rocketss moved from Russia to Western Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine 2 guard_infantrys moved from Russia to Western Ukraine 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Western Ukraine 3 infantry moved from Tambov to Rostov 1 fighter moved from Russia to Rostov Combat - Russians Battle in Western Ukraine Russians attack with 3 Russian_Rocketss, 1 fighter, 2 guard_infantrys, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 2 armour Russians roll dice for 3 Russian_Rocketss in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 armour owned by the Italians lost in Western Ukraine 3 Russian_Rocketss owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Italians with 1 fighter, 2 guard_infantrys, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Italians: 2 armour Casualties for Russians: 3 Russian_Rocketss Battle in Rostov Russians attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 german_para and 1 german_paraBoost Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 german_para and 1 german_paraBoost in Rostov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 german_para owned by the Germans lost in Rostov 1 german_paraBoost owned by the Germans lost in Rostov Russians win, taking Rostov from Germans with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 german_para and 1 german_paraBoost Non Combat Move - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Kazakhstan: 1 Soviet_Partisan EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Bessarabia: 1 Soviet_Partisan EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 2 Rails owned by Russians in Russia Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 Europe_Rail owned by Russians in Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Rostov to Russia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Russia 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus 1 2ndCorps moved from Volgograd to Samara 1 1stTankArmy moved from Russia to Samara 1 1stCorps moved from Archangel to Samara 1 armour moved from Urals to Samara 2 armour moved from Vologda to Samara 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda 2 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 1 guard_infantry moved from Russia to Samara 1 Europe_Rail moved from Russia to Tambov 1 Europe_Rail and 1 aaGun moved from Tambov to Caucasus 2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey 1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone EDIT: 3 mine_unarmeds moved from Russia to Archangel Place Units - Russians 19 Army_Conscripts placed in Russia 6 Army_Conscripts placed in Volgograd Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 29 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.50 Russians regular : 1.00Couldn’t find an Archangel-Novgorod mine so I just went with a nice orange color Russian mine :) Should I put that in comment log?
Also not sure how those partisans work actually. It seems you can’t place them in enemy territory, and you also can’t move them. I just placed one in my territory, then removed it and edited in your territory.
By the way, that was the first partisan I ever produced in this game! How awesome! Lol that one buck I had left over was still useful xD
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yea that’s cool. I just did a few mines for high use areas so we don’t spam Changer’s window too bad.
We can add others if they seem needed. Yea I document in log if it doesn’t have a name.I think I have it in Notes about the bombard for LCV. I didn’t realize I had a second CA lol. It’s usually sunk :)
Probably easiest way is to edit in a trprt, load the LCV dudes on it for the Bombard. Then remove in NCM
Oh yea, Partisans I just place in moscow and then edit. One thing that’s easy to miss is after the 2nd one places, it doesn’t change into a Inf until CM of next turn.
It then conquers the TTy it’s in and can’t do anything else that turn.You will need to edit control back to the Enemy until you conquer it.
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ahh yea the Arty from syria shouldn’t have been able to retreat. My bad :)
Should I roll a die for him and then kill him ? He woulda died along with the Tank
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1d6<=2: 4; Hits: 0
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Sure, that sounds good to me. You can roll for your Cruiser bombard too if you want.
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@Well he missed :( I will kill him now :)
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1d6<=3: 5; Hits: 0
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hmm … were gonna have to reprimand that CA Captain lol
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Well, at least he tried xD
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@VictoryFirst said in barnee vs VictoryFirst EXP Boxes Game 4:
Couldn’t find an Archangel-Novgorod mine so I just went with a nice orange color Russian mine :) Should I put that in comment log?
yea so I would use the no color for Arch as it’s directly west. Orange I wdould use for Belarus.
No biggie and it doesn’t really matter, just easier to tell from a glance. The colors take a bit to get used too.
I’ll make some Archangel ones for next update
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Oh actually I was looking for the no-color mine but I couldn’t find it in the window.
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@VictoryFirst yea sadly there hard to locate and tend to move to the left coloum after you edit one. He was towards the bottom.
Panzer didn’t like the old LMs so i added these but you can switch if you want. The old ones have the nation flag.
Idk, i kinda like these better too but not a huge preference either way. We don’t have to use the same images to play. Same as the Panzer Generals.
Man those Rockets are brutal when they hit. Real good for those small counterattacks :)
I should have JPN after bit. Once i get my brain working lol
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Japanese Note to players Japanese: <body><b>It is Early 1942 and our Proud Navy has added Transport Capacity to our Destroyers !<br><br>Destroyers may now tansport 1 Infantry or Elite Infantry.<b></body> Japanese buy 2 Escorts, 4 armour, 1 elite, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Politics - Japanese Trigger DD Transport: Setting transportCapacity cleared for unitAttachment attached to Japan_destroyer Trigger DD Transport: Setting transportCapacity to 2 for unitAttachment attached to Japan_destroyer Trigger DD TransportPacific: Setting transportCapacity cleared for unitAttachment attached to JPN_Pacific_DD Trigger DD TransportPacific: Setting transportCapacity to 2 for unitAttachment attached to JPN_Pacific_DD Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 Rails placed in Kiangsu 1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R. Japanese take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 Escort_Convoy moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Japan to 17 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 19 Sea Zone to Formosa 1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 elite moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 elite and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 elite moved from 20 Sea Zone to Formosa 1 artillery moved from 20 Sea Zone to Formosa 1 battleship moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 Japan_destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 armour moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from Anhwe to French Indo China 2 armour moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Yunnan 2 armour moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Szechwan 1 armour moved from Kweichow to Shensi 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Shensi Combat - Japanese Battle in Shensi Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shensi, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shensi 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shensi Japanese win, taking Shensi from Chinese with 1 armour and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in French Indo China Japanese attack with 2 armour and 1 bomber British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 armour and 1 bomber in French Indo China, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in French Indo China Japanese win, taking French Indo China from British with 2 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in 20 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 3 fighters and 1 transport French defend with 1 destroyer; ANZAC defend with 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 3 fighters and 1 transport in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 transport owned by the ANZAC and 1 destroyer owned by the French lost in 20 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 3 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13 Casualties for French: 1 destroyer Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Formosa Changer loiter and taunt; Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 elite, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber Changer defend; ANZAC defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 elite, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Formosa, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Formosa, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Formosa Japanese win, taking Formosa from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 elite, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Szechwan Japanese attack with 2 armour and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 armour and 1 tactical_bomber in Szechwan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 2 armour and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in 17 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 Escort_Convoy, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 cruiser and 2 transports Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 17 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the Americans lost in 17 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 1 Escort_Convoy, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 17 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 transports in 17 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits 2 transports owned by the Americans lost in 17 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 17 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 Escort_Convoy, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21 Casualties for Americans: 1 cruiser and 2 transports Non Combat Move - Japanese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 2 Rails owned by Japanese in Hunan 3 fighters moved from 17 Sea Zone to Japan 2 tactical_bombers moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Formosa to 20 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Formosa to 20 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Hunan 1 bomber moved from Yunnan to Hunan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Anhwe 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Anhwe 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Anhwe 2 armour moved from Kiangsu to Hunan 2 Rails, 1 artillery and 1 elite moved from Kiangsu to Hunan 2 armour moved from Shantung to Kweichow 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe EDIT: 1 Japanese_LCV moved from Kiangsu to Manchuria EDIT: 1 Japanese_LCV moved from Korea to Japan 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 4 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R. 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Buryatia 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung 1 carrier moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung 3 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 2 Escorts placed in 6 Sea Zone 2 armour and 1 infantry placed in Kiangsu 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Shantung 1 elite and 3 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Note to players Japanese: <body><b>It is Early 1942 and Our Shipyards are Hard at Work.<br><br>We will soon Launch 1 new Cruiser and 1 new Submarine. They may only Operate in the Pacific and Indian Oceans.<b></body> Trigger Japanese RemoveConvoySZ17: has removed 1 Escort_Convoy owned by Japanese in 17 Sea Zone Trigger Japanese RemoveConvoySZ6Invert: has removed 1 Escort owned by Japanese in 6 Sea Zone Trigger Japanese RemoveConvoySZ17: Japanese has 1 Escort placed in 17 Sea Zone Trigger Japanese RemoveConvoySZ6Invert: Japanese has 1 Escort_Convoy placed in 6 Sea Zone Japanese collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs Trigger Japan Liberates Formosa Turn5: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 1 PUs; end with 46 PUs Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 PUs; end with 54 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.67 Americans regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : 3.50 ANZAC regular : -0.83 British regular : -0.33Busy little turn for JPN. Think It’s correct :) Confidence is high anyways lol
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