L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22)

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    @axis-dominion said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    @GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    I always get denied it too otherwise would have been playing with it for years. I do with live games players here are just not as forgiven and thus neither am I sorry let me know the new placement i can edit and start.

    really? this would be the first time i’ve been denied, and that’s after a long time playing in the league and i am also one of the most prolific players. very interesting.

    @Adam514 what are your thoughts on this being denied like this??

    On games with more importance (playoffs) I make sure to ask what bidding rules will be used before the bid starts. I think my 2 BM playoff games have been with default rules for example.


  • @Adam514 said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    @axis-dominion said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    @GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    I always get denied it too otherwise would have been playing with it for years. I do with live games players here are just not as forgiven and thus neither am I sorry let me know the new placement i can edit and start.

    really? this would be the first time i’ve been denied, and that’s after a long time playing in the league and i am also one of the most prolific players. very interesting.

    @Adam514 what are your thoughts on this being denied like this??

    On games with more importance (playoffs) I make sure to ask what bidding rules will be used before the bid starts. I think my 2 BM playoff games have been with default rules for example.

    you asked and they denied?

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    first time i’m being denied, ever… so i was curious if you ran into this as well.

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    in any case, he’s denying so it doesn’t matter, but i’d like to understand expectations for things like edits before proceeding, as i tend to be very lenient wrt edits but i think this is one of those situations where i should be explicit with my opponent before proceeding (normally i’m not and haven’t had problems)

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    @axis-dominion said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    @Adam514 said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    @axis-dominion said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    @GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    I always get denied it too otherwise would have been playing with it for years. I do with live games players here are just not as forgiven and thus neither am I sorry let me know the new placement i can edit and start.

    really? this would be the first time i’ve been denied, and that’s after a long time playing in the league and i am also one of the most prolific players. very interesting.

    @Adam514 what are your thoughts on this being denied like this??

    On games with more importance (playoffs) I make sure to ask what bidding rules will be used before the bid starts. I think my 2 BM playoff games have been with default rules for example.

    you asked and they denied?

    I ask if they want to allow it and they said no. Affects bidding slightly.

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    Not such a stickler just never been allowed to bid there. If the ranked league rules say its good I’m all good. @gamerman01 What do you think good sir?


  • @GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    Not such a stickler just never been allowed to bid there. If the ranked league rules say it’s good I’m all good. @gamerman01 What do you think good sir?

    That’s the point, he’ll say it’s the default but really up to the players to agree on it. Your disagreeing is I guess the first time I’m personally encountering this, making me think we should probably be explicit about everything else before proceeding. I’ve had opponents question it but after explaining that it’s a longstanding convention they always allow it. You even admit it’s something that was common in non-league play. So why disallow it, I mean you know I’d allow you to do it as well right? That should be obvious.


  • @axis-dominion To your point ok then. I guess grass roots start somewhere go ahead and edit back and proceed.

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    Anyway whatever. Let me know how you approach edits. I allow all edits as long as I haven’t rolled yet, and even if I’ve rolled I’m willing to allow, just ask me and I’ll evaluate. Main thing is of course the edits should not be based on knowing outcome of dice rolled or subsequent decisions/moves made by opponent. So my evaluation is usually based on that. Sometimes dice rolled on one side of board truly have no bearing on an edit request elsewhere, for example. Also I’m usually ok with US edits made after China and UK moves/rolls as long as, again, not influenced by dice outcomes. Which is I think logical and common sense.


  • @axis-dominion Go ahead if it is being accept as you say I’m all on board with the change. How you want to edit that guy between China and Anzac make no difference on my German turn. That being said if you want to edit on the Eroupe side that may change things.


  • @GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    @axis-dominion Go ahead if it is being accept as you say I’m all on board with the change. How you want to edit that guy between China and Anzac make no difference on my German turn. That being said if you want to edit on the Eroupe side that may change things.

    ok thanks, i would like it on ng in that case.

    afa decisions:

    1. no scramble

    2. in 106, sub fights. if you hit first, I’ll take the dd as casualty and submerge. if I hit first, then sub stays in and is the first casualty



  • @GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    @axis-dominion G1 OOL.tsvg OOL in 106

    getting an error when i try to open it. how many hits did you get?


  • @axis-dominion I got 1 but I’m down to 1 sub now


  • @GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

    @axis-dominion I got 1 but I’m down to 1 sub now

    so my sub got a hit on you?


  • @GeneralDisarray You still have a sub and a dest

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    ok i’ll take out the sub then



  • Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from New Guinea: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Hunan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Germans buy 1 destroyer, 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            3 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 armour moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
            1 armour moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            2 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Bessarabia
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Bessarabia
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Eastern Poland
            2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Baltic States
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in 106 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                British win with 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines
                Casualties for British: 1 submarine
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 3 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking France from French with 3 armour, 3 artilleries and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                Casualties for Germans: 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Germans attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Eastern Poland
                Germans attack with 6 armour and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 6 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 3 infantry
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French
            triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Poland
            2 bombers moved from Bessarabia to Germany
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France
            2 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
            1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
            4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Southern Italy
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 113 Sea Zone
            5 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 38 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
    

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