L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22)

[GeneralDisarray]

@GeneralDisarray G1 scrambel submerge.tsvg Scramble, Submerge?

[axis-dominion]

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@GeneralDisarray G1 scrambel submerge.tsvg Scramble, Submerge?

yea hold on, i need to think about whether i actually wanna play with you at this point, since you are a stickler for league rules as written, i probably should establish beforehand what your expectations are regarding other things like edits. i almost never do this but your denying me on a longstanding convention accepted by all the top players that i’m aware of makes me really concerned.

[Adam514]

@axis-dominion said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

I always get denied it too otherwise would have been playing with it for years. I do with live games players here are just not as forgiven and thus neither am I sorry let me know the new placement i can edit and start.

really? this would be the first time i’ve been denied, and that’s after a long time playing in the league and i am also one of the most prolific players. very interesting.

@Adam514 what are your thoughts on this being denied like this??

On games with more importance (playoffs) I make sure to ask what bidding rules will be used before the bid starts. I think my 2 BM playoff games have been with default rules for example.

[axis-dominion]

@Adam514 said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@axis-dominion said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

I always get denied it too otherwise would have been playing with it for years. I do with live games players here are just not as forgiven and thus neither am I sorry let me know the new placement i can edit and start.

really? this would be the first time i’ve been denied, and that’s after a long time playing in the league and i am also one of the most prolific players. very interesting.

@Adam514 what are your thoughts on this being denied like this??

On games with more importance (playoffs) I make sure to ask what bidding rules will be used before the bid starts. I think my 2 BM playoff games have been with default rules for example.

you asked and they denied?

[axis-dominion]

first time i’m being denied, ever… so i was curious if you ran into this as well.

[axis-dominion]

in any case, he’s denying so it doesn’t matter, but i’d like to understand expectations for things like edits before proceeding, as i tend to be very lenient wrt edits but i think this is one of those situations where i should be explicit with my opponent before proceeding (normally i’m not and haven’t had problems)

[Adam514]

@axis-dominion said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@Adam514 said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@axis-dominion said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

I always get denied it too otherwise would have been playing with it for years. I do with live games players here are just not as forgiven and thus neither am I sorry let me know the new placement i can edit and start.

really? this would be the first time i’ve been denied, and that’s after a long time playing in the league and i am also one of the most prolific players. very interesting.

@Adam514 what are your thoughts on this being denied like this??

On games with more importance (playoffs) I make sure to ask what bidding rules will be used before the bid starts. I think my 2 BM playoff games have been with default rules for example.

you asked and they denied?

I ask if they want to allow it and they said no. Affects bidding slightly.

[GeneralDisarray]

Not such a stickler just never been allowed to bid there. If the ranked league rules say its good I’m all good. @gamerman01 What do you think good sir?

[axis-dominion]

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

Not such a stickler just never been allowed to bid there. If the ranked league rules say it’s good I’m all good. @gamerman01 What do you think good sir?

That’s the point, he’ll say it’s the default but really up to the players to agree on it. Your disagreeing is I guess the first time I’m personally encountering this, making me think we should probably be explicit about everything else before proceeding. I’ve had opponents question it but after explaining that it’s a longstanding convention they always allow it. You even admit it’s something that was common in non-league play. So why disallow it, I mean you know I’d allow you to do it as well right? That should be obvious.

[GeneralDisarray]

@axis-dominion To your point ok then. I guess grass roots start somewhere go ahead and edit back and proceed.

[axis-dominion]

Anyway whatever. Let me know how you approach edits. I allow all edits as long as I haven’t rolled yet, and even if I’ve rolled I’m willing to allow, just ask me and I’ll evaluate. Main thing is of course the edits should not be based on knowing outcome of dice rolled or subsequent decisions/moves made by opponent. So my evaluation is usually based on that. Sometimes dice rolled on one side of board truly have no bearing on an edit request elsewhere, for example. Also I’m usually ok with US edits made after China and UK moves/rolls as long as, again, not influenced by dice outcomes. Which is I think logical and common sense.

[GeneralDisarray]

@axis-dominion Go ahead if it is being accept as you say I’m all on board with the change. How you want to edit that guy between China and Anzac make no difference on my German turn. That being said if you want to edit on the Eroupe side that may change things.

[axis-dominion]

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@axis-dominion Go ahead if it is being accept as you say I’m all on board with the change. How you want to edit that guy between China and Anzac make no difference on my German turn. That being said if you want to edit on the Eroupe side that may change things.

ok thanks, i would like it on ng in that case.

afa decisions:

1. no scramble

2. in 106, sub fights. if you hit first, I’ll take the dd as casualty and submerge. if I hit first, then sub stays in and is the first casualty

[GeneralDisarray]

@axis-dominion G1 OOL.tsvg OOL in 106

[axis-dominion]

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@axis-dominion G1 OOL.tsvg OOL in 106

getting an error when i try to open it. how many hits did you get?

[GeneralDisarray]

@axis-dominion I got 1 but I’m down to 1 sub now

[axis-dominion]

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@axis-dominion I got 1 but I’m down to 1 sub now

so my sub got a hit on you?

[GeneralDisarray]

@GeneralDisarray You still have a sub and a dest

[axis-dominion]

ok i’ll take out the sub then

[GeneralDisarray]

@axis-dominion G1.tsvg