Elche(x) v Gamerman01 Classic no tech Russia restricted

[elche]

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 2 armour, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to New Zealand Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from Red Sea Zone to Indian Ocean Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from India to Indian Ocean Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from Indian Ocean Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Red Sea Zone to Persia
        2 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk
        1 fighter moved from Red Sea Zone to Kazakh S.S.R.
        1 armour moved from French Indo China to Kazakh S.S.R.
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Novosibirsk
        1 fighter moved from Red Sea Zone to Persia

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Persia
            Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            British defend with 1 fighter; Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships in Persia, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Persia
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Persia
            Japanese win, taking Persia from British with 1 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 fighter
        Battle in New Zealand Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 transport in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 transport in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 transport in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 transport in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in New Zealand Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in New Zealand Sea Zone
            Americans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in Novosibirsk
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk
            Japanese win, taking Novosibirsk from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Kazakh S.S.R.
            Japanese attack with 1 armour and 1 fighter
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 1 fighter in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Kazakh S.S.R.
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakh S.S.R.
            Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter moved from Persia to Red Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Red Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from French Indo China to French Indo China Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Red Sea Zone to Anglo Sudan Egypt
        1 bomber moved from Novosibirsk to French Indo China
        1 armour moved from Sinkiang to India
        1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang
        1 armour moved from French Indo China to India
        1 fighter moved from Red Sea Zone to Anglo Sudan Egypt
        1 carrier moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 armour and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
        1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Manchuria
        1 transport placed in Japan Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0,33
Japanese regular : -0,33
Russians regular : 0,33
British regular : 0,00

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[elche]

here is my llist of questions.
Please give me your questions too.

I have some rule questions please.

1. Its possible in a sea battle to retreat with attacked subs in two different sz ?
2. If a subs retreat, can it stop production for enemy ships ? If enemy destroy sub next round, he can produce ships there ?
3. Did we play with sneak attack from subs ?

[elche]

Please correct my English

[gamerman01]

@elche Thanks!! I noticed Russia has a higher TUV than UK and USA! I was surprised

[elche]

Here is first answer to my questions.

Attacking submarines can only withdraw to SZ from which attacking units came. If this includes multiple SZ and there are multiple submarines the answer is “no”. The submarines must withdraw to the same SZ on a given round: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/37860/submarine-withdrawal-question

The presence of any enemy vessels in SZ adjacent to industrial complexes prevents the building of new ships. However, if all enemy ships have retreated or been destroyed before the place units phase, the owner of the IC may place as normal. In other words, the player has until the Place Units phase to clear the SZ for any purchases made in the Purchase Units phase.

Yes.

[gamerman01]

@elche said in Elche(x) v Gamerman01 Classic no tech Russia restricted:

here is my llist of questions.
Please give me your questions too.

I have some rule questions please.

1. Its possible in a sea battle to retreat with attacked subs in two different sz ?
2. If a subs retreat, can it stop production for enemy ships ? If enemy destroy sub next round, he can produce ships there ?
3. Did we play with sneak attack from subs ?

#1 1 or more subs can be withdrawn after each battle round, but each different round all subs can only withdraw to a SZ a ship passed through in Combat move, and each round withdrawing subs must withdraw together to the same sea zone.
So it is possible to withdraw subs, on different rounds, to different sea zones. Wild!
#2 The rules we are playing by, yes. If you play that subs can submerge (stay in same zone) then you also play that you CAN place ships into occupied sea zone. (Kwas explained this to me - he knows Classic rules very well) If you play that you CAN’T ever place ships into an occupied sea zone (and you would lose all ships and no refund), then you DON’T play with submerge. Then if you attack the enemy ship(s) (subs) they would have to withdraw since they can’t hit aircraft, and you will be able to place your ships.
So with the way we are playing - that you can’t place ships into enemy occupied zone - we are also playing that subs may not submerge straight down. However! If you attack a sub in a sea zone NEXT to your production sea zone and the opponent withdraws INTO that production sea zone, then you will lose all your ships if you can’t place them elsewhere.
When I bought transports with USA and attacked your sub by Mexico if I would have missed and you withdrew to California, I would build into Eastern US. If it happens with the UK when the UK only has one factory, then UK can’t place and all ships purchased are lost, so you have to make sure you are not caught off guard with this.
In the future I would want to play that you can build ships into an enemy zone (even though this kind of feels wrong in Classic) and with submerge.
#3 Attacking subs get sneak attack. I’m quite sure defending subs do not.

But this is only the 2nd game of classic I’ve played in 30 years! I just figured these things out from rule book, rule clarifications (the Classified document) and kwas.

[gamerman01]

Once again, thank you for challenging me to a game of classic a year ago. It is very, very enjoyable to play it on Triple A - the map is very pretty and matches the game board very well.

[elche]

I hoped so, it was the same for me.
But its important to know the rules. The biggest change is no attack from Russia in R1.
Its my third game in my ltfe with that rule.

[elche]

Yes you are right, i need 1 year for preparing our game. I finished 4 games Classic in this year. Need this because of the new rules for me.

[gamerman01]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 8

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Classic 3rd Edition

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Americans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic 3rd Edition

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 2 armour, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to New Zealand Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from Red Sea Zone to Indian Ocean Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from India to Indian Ocean Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from Indian Ocean Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Red Sea Zone to Persia
        2 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk
        1 fighter moved from Red Sea Zone to Kazakh S.S.R.
        1 armour moved from French Indo China to Kazakh S.S.R.
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Novosibirsk
        1 fighter moved from Red Sea Zone to Persia

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Persia
            Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            British defend with 1 fighter; Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships in Persia, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Persia
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Persia
            Japanese win, taking Persia from British with 1 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 fighter
        Battle in New Zealand Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 transport in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 transport in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 transport in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 transport in New Zealand Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in New Zealand Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in New Zealand Sea Zone
            Americans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in Novosibirsk
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk
            Japanese win, taking Novosibirsk from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Kazakh S.S.R.
            Japanese attack with 1 armour and 1 fighter
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 1 fighter in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Kazakh S.S.R.
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakh S.S.R.
            Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter moved from Persia to Red Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Red Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from French Indo China to French Indo China Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Red Sea Zone to Anglo Sudan Egypt
        1 bomber moved from Novosibirsk to French Indo China
        1 armour moved from Sinkiang to India
        1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang
        1 armour moved from French Indo China to India
        1 fighter moved from Red Sea Zone to Anglo Sudan Egypt
        1 carrier moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 armour and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
        1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Manchuria
        1 transport placed in Japan Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.33
Japanese regular : -0.33
Russians regular : 0.33
British regular : 0.00

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[gamerman01]

Amazing. Today I am able to play by forum and post successfully. I just tested here because in my playoff game it works now.

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic 3rd Edition

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 8 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        2 infantry moved from West US to West US Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from West US Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        2 bombers moved from West Canada to Hawaiian Islands
        1 armour moved from Congo to South Africa
              British take Kenya-Rhodesia from Germans
              British take South Africa from Germans
        1 bomber moved from Spain to Germany

    Combat - Americans
        Strategic bombing raid in Germany
                Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 1 and costs: 1 PU.
            Bombing raid costs 1 PU
        Battle in Hawaiian Islands
            Americans attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hawaiian Islands
            Americans win, taking Hawaiian Islands from Japanese with 2 bombers and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 bomber moved from Germany to East Canada
        2 infantry moved from East US to East US Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from East US Sea Zone to West Spain Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from West Spain Sea Zone to East Canada Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from East Canada to East Canada Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Congo to Algeria
        2 infantry moved from East US to East Canada
        1 armour moved from West US to East Canada
        2 bombers moved from Hawaiian Islands to West Canada
        2 infantry moved from West Spain Sea Zone to Algeria
        1 armour and 1 transport moved from East Canada Sea Zone to West Spain Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from West Spain Sea Zone to Spain

    Place Units - Americans
        4 infantry placed in East US
        4 infantry placed in West US
        1 transport placed in West US Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 34 PUs; end with 35 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.33
Japanese regular : -0.67
Germans AA : -0.17

Savegame

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic 3rd Edition

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 5 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        3 infantry moved from Evenki National Okrug to Novosibirsk
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Novosibirsk
        28 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to East Europe
        1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine S.S.R.

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in East Europe
            Russians attack with 28 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 28 infantry in East Europe, round 2 : 4/28 hits, 4.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in East Europe, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Europe
            Russians win, taking East Europe from Germans with 28 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Novosibirsk
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Novosibirsk
            Russians win, taking Novosibirsk from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        7 armour moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
        1 aaGun moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
        1 aaGun moved from Evenki National Okrug to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Karelia S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R.
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Evenki National Okrug

    Place Units - Russians
        5 armour placed in Karelia S.S.R.

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 28 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0.33
Germans regular : -0.67
Russians regular : -0.50

Savegame

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic 3rd Edition

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 5 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        3 infantry moved from Evenki National Okrug to Novosibirsk
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Novosibirsk
        28 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to East Europe
        1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine S.S.R.

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in East Europe
            Russians attack with 28 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 28 infantry in East Europe, round 2 : 4/28 hits, 4.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in East Europe, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Europe
            Russians win, taking East Europe from Germans with 28 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Novosibirsk
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Novosibirsk
            Russians win, taking Novosibirsk from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        7 armour moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
        1 aaGun moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
        1 aaGun moved from Evenki National Okrug to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Karelia S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R.
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Evenki National Okrug

    Place Units - Russians
        5 armour placed in Karelia S.S.R.

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 28 PUs; end with 28 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from West Spain Sea Zone: 2 transports
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to North Sea Zone: 2 transports
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Spain: 1 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Finland Norway: 1 armour
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Algeria: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to West Europe: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0.33
Germans regular : -0.67
Russians regular : -0.50

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[gamerman01]

Oops, only 2 spaces from Germany to US transports
I was going to do this move (as edited) in the first place, but then thought West of Spain zone was out of reach.

You can certainly disallow, but beware transport fire if you attack them, and you probably should use fighters over France anyway. Up to you, sorry about the edit.

Of course, you could also do a very risky hit and run on France, and perhaps you want 2 more Americans there anyway. So pick your poison, but I would like the position as posted, with the edits, that doesn’t allow you to try sinking my transports.

[gamerman01]

I’m at your mercy, I did this out of order and after Russia’s turn, decide what you like

[elche]

Thanks for the summarys.
No problem with your edits because I dont want attack transports and dont need planes over France. I only have to stop russian invasion.
Now I wait for the battle of Germany.
But think about my 8,8 cm Flak/ AAgun -same cannon like on Tiger Tanks, so you have to fight against this and your Army has only 1 for attack and only 1 tank. BC is only theorie. If you dont conquer Germany you will lose Europe and Russia lose his tanks and planes if you attack without inf. LOL
If you like, you could do the battle for Germany when I am online too - maybe its reality that I lose the game next turn.
We can make a date for the battle.
Have a great weekend

[elche]

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 armour and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        6 infantry moved from South Europe to East Europe
        1 armour, 4 fighters and 23 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to French Equatorial Africa
              Germans take French Equatorial Africa from British

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in East Europe
            Germans attack with 1 armour, 4 fighters and 29 infantry
            Russians defend with 28 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 4 fighters and 29 infantry in East Europe, round 2 : 10/34 hits, 7,33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 28 infantry in East Europe, round 2 : 7/28 hits, 9,33 expected hits
                7 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Europe
                10 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Europe
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 4 fighters and 22 infantry in East Europe, round 3 : 7/27 hits, 6,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 18 infantry in East Europe, round 3 : 5/18 hits, 6,00 expected hits
                5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Europe
                7 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Europe
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 4 fighters and 17 infantry in East Europe, round 4 : 7/22 hits, 5,33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 11 infantry in East Europe, round 4 : 5/11 hits, 3,67 expected hits
                5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Europe
                7 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Europe
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 4 fighters and 12 infantry in East Europe, round 5 : 3/17 hits, 4,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in East Europe, round 5 : 3/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Europe
                3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Europe
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 4 fighters and 9 infantry in East Europe, round 6 : 3/14 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in East Europe, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Europe
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Europe
            Germans win, taking East Europe from Russians with 1 armour, 4 fighters and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
            Casualties for Germans: 21 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 28 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 aaGun moved from South Europe to East Europe
        4 fighters moved from East Europe to Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        1 armour and 9 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 0,33
Germans regular : 2,67

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[gamerman01]

@elche That’s all awesome, great that you are a good sport
I do know what an 88 is, they are so awesomely powerful

OK, I’ll try and include you when I do a big battle