League General Discussion Thread

[gamerman01]

It is different than the miracle dice, yes, those examples don’t exactly apply here.

When making the combat movements, you KNOW the neutral (that will later be flown over) will be violated before NCM, so you KNOW the bomber will be able to fly over it in NCM.

[axis-dominion]

@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:

It is different than the miracle dice, yes, those examples don’t exactly apply here.

When making the combat movements, you KNOW the neutral (that will later be flown over) will be violated before NCM, so you KNOW the bomber will be able to fly over it in NCM.

ok, so just to be clear, i was right to fly back over the JUST attacked neutral territory (but wasn’t able to fly over it during combat movement)?

[gamerman01]

I think so, but I don’t think it can be found explicitly in the rules which is why we’ve been talking about principles and spirit and stuff.

If you really want to know, you ask Krieghund, and he often surprises me… There’s my caveat

My thinking is, the neutral immediately loses neutral status when it’s attacked. When the combat move is done, you know for sure that neutral will not be neutral when the NCM phase comes. That’s why I’m sure it’s OK

[axis-dominion]

@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:

I think so, but I don’t think it can be found explicitly in the rules which is why we’ve been talking about principles and spirit and stuff.

If you really want to know, you ask Krieghund, and he often surprises me… There’s my caveat

My thinking is, the neutral immediately loses neutral status when it’s attacked. When the combat move is done, you know for sure that neutral will not be neutral when the NCM phase comes. That’s why I’m sure it’s OK

that was my exact reasoning as well. you have to honor during combat move but not on the way back during noncom if it’s been attacked. kinda like if russia attacked afghan and flew the air over to india, or vice versa.

do you know which forum i could ask krieg or maybe look it up if it’s been answered already? adam has graciously just allowed it to happen and don’t think it’s relevant for our game anymore, but still good to know if there’s a definitive answer since as you said it’s not in the rulebook.

[gamerman01]

Forums -> Global 1940 -> Stickied Q&A thread

[axis-dominion]

@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:

Forums -> Global 1940 -> Stickied Q&A thread

thanks!

ok before posting i did an in-topic search and found this:

not sure if that was you gamer, or krieg, but whoever it is they seem official lol

so @Adam514 i believe what i did was correct after all. not that it matters now since you allowed it anyway, but for our future reference

[Adam514]

@axis-dominion said in League General Discussion Thread:

@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:

Forums -> Global 1940 -> Stickied Q&A thread

thanks!

ok before posting i did an in-topic search and found this:

not sure if that was you gamer, or krieg, but whoever it is they seem official lol

so @Adam514 i believe what i did was correct after all. not that it matters now since you allowed it anyway, but for our future reference

That just says you can fly over neutral after they are attacked. It doesn’t say that you can plan to fly over a neutral in NCM to land a plane that has no other legal spot.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

@Adam514 as long as you have a chance of a legal landing spot at the end of the mobilization phase, you can do the combat moves.

[axis-dominion]

i guess i am reading this part of the statement “which means that during the noncombat movement following the combat move that was the attack on said neutral…” as meaning it takes effect immediately. and that last statement at the end further reinforces this interpretation by emphasizing that the flight over cannot happen during the combat movement, just on the way back during noncombat. let me see if i can get @Krieghund to weigh in on this for us.

[axis-dominion]

btw that was gamer who ruled that way back in 2013 lol maybe he can remember what he meant and interpret for us

[Krieghund]

@gamerman01 is correct.

[axis-dominion]

@Krieghund said in League General Discussion Thread:

@gamerman01 is correct.

thank you!

[gamerman01]

Wow! Crockett has already finished a 6th interview - @oztea Oztea!

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/40629/video-interviews-of-league-players-by-crockett36?_=1712067027108

This stickied league thread has links to all interviews.

[Karl7]

@axis-dominion

nice

[gamerman01]

@crockett36 has recorded his first game review,

An OOB game between AndrewAAGamer and farmboy (+60)

28 rounder

Crockett36 and myself review 4 rounds
We did a rather detailed review of the critical early rounds, and it took about 2 hours!

The link is posted in the stickied “video interview” thread

I realize only about 2 people will watch it, probably @farmboy and @AndrewAAGamer who will then have a good reason to dislike us.

[Adam514]

@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:

@crockett36 has recorded his first game review,

An OOB game between AndrewAAGamer and farmboy (+60)

28 rounder

Crockett36 and myself review 4 rounds
We did a rather detailed review of the critical early rounds, and it took about 2 hours!

The link is posted in the stickied “video interview” thread

I realize only about 2 people will watch it, probably @farmboy and @AndrewAAGamer who will then have a good reason to dislike us.

Chinese aren’t allowed to move in UK territory if UK isn’t at war with Japan yet right? Even in OOB? Referencing the move to Burma on China1.

[gamerman01]

Ouch, that’s 4 experienced players that didn’t catch it.

Absolutely right, UK and China can’t collaborate until UK at war with Japan

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(Edit - China can actually enter Burma before UK is at war with Japan)

[farmboy]

@gamerman01 actually I believe they can. I remember this coming up before and getting this clarified. A quick google search brought me this answer from Krieghund. THis is specific to pacific but I assume applies to global too.

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/11100/china-question-re-uk-territories

[farmboy]

a couple of more links where this is discussed including a more recent one. https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/39961/chinese-fighter-and-burma
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/16949/chinese-forces/9

[gamerman01]

I looked over the latest P40 manual and the FAQ, and they are both silent on the question, which really explains the different suppositions each of us have.

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~~Then I’m glad I clicked on that most recent link (is actually an answer from just 2 months ago), and SHOCKER!

You move a single Chinese unit to Burma and Japan can’t attack Burma?!!
I guess normally there are no Chinese infantry in Yunnan, but the Chinese fighter to Burma makes a Japan attack on Burma impossible if Japan is not at war with UK - that is HUGE~~

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(Edit: strike the above 2 paragraphs, I was temporarily confused)