I’ve never done it myself, but my impression is that the game is severely imbalanced in favor of Japan, so start with a 30-50 IPC bid for the Allies, and revise from there.
Disapointed
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WOW, there are a some disgruntled customers here. This is the first time I have read this thread.
I actually have not yet purchased the AAP40 as we still play the AA50 and I already own most of the other prevoius A&A games, so it was not critical yet. I was planning on going to get it soon, but now I am wondering if I should wait a little for the corrected reprint version that usually comes out when ther are “bugs” to fix. Has anyone heard that WOTC plans to fix the issues and re-release?
On the issue of the map, is there a map link that one can print in full color and laminate?
This would be better then what is being described here. Just a thought.What is the issue with the pieces exactly?
Thoughts from anyone? :-)
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For 1, there is only 6 Japenese Tatical bombers.
Japan starts off with 10, in 6 stacks, including 4 in Japan.
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6 is plenty of pieces for a set up of 10, why be disappointing? I mean its is very clear that Japan would never “separate” them, just like it is very clear that the IPC board (which goes up to 50) will cover it when USA goes to 57+ on turn 3.
Also, the Battleboard does not need to include the new units because they will never be in any battle.
The chips ( 50 and 10) are far more than what is needed for setup. I mean you got like 8 chips left over for everything else, so it’s fine.
And this chimp talk thing…. how can people be so mean. WOTC made everything perfect as usual.
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@Imperious:
6 is plenty of pieces for a set up of 10, why be disappointing? I mean its is very clear that Japan would never “separate” them, just like it is very clear that the IPC board (which goes up to 50) will cover it when USA goes to 57+ on turn 3.
Also, the Battleboard does not need to include the new units because they will never be in any battle.
The chips ( 50 and 10) are far more than what is needed for setup. I mean you got like 8 chips left over for everything else, so it’s fine.
And this chimp talk thing…. how can people be so mean. WOTC made everything perfect as usual.
IL, When are you going to start making games again?
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I think he was being sarcastic :)
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exactly.
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@Imperious:
6 is plenty of pieces for a set up of 10, why be disappointing? I mean its is very clear that Japan would never “separate” them, just like it is very clear that the IPC board (which goes up to 50) will cover it when USA goes to 57+ on turn 3.
Does not even go up to 50 goes to 48….so when a person would do a double stack to signify they “rolled” the chart you could say “oh 50 and the token is at 7 so 57”…you had to go “no wait it is at 55 ipc”.
Yes math is easy but just made it where you had to take half a second rather than a 1/4 second glance is all. :)
Sean
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Here’s what I foresee for future versions of A&A boardgames: :wink:
“Player aid” cards (set up charts, IPC track, battleboard etc) will be printed on the mapboard. :?
Only the “new” units introduced to the game will be provided. Players will be required to provide pieces from previous versions of the game including dice and chips. :x
Only one of each of whatever new unit being showcased in the current version of the game will be provided: players will have to create markers for additional units on bits of paper. :cry:
The rule book will only include errata for the last version of the game and new rules for the new units. :-(
The map will be printed without mounting on recycled theme park map paper. It will be folded into the size of a wallet to maximize annoying creases that will obscure borders and data in the “player aid” sections. This will increase traffic to the official website of people asking for clarifications. They will be ignored. :-o
Games will be packaged in ziplock bags. But not real ziplock, the cheap knockoffs that don’t stay shut. :roll:Complaints will be responded to with messages acknowledging “known issues” of which only the least expensive will be corrected, if at all. :evil:
Have I missed anything? :lol: :-D :-P
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Actually I think they will do the game D&D style, where you have to make up everything as you go along.
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The main reason many people play this game is because they don’t want chits or chips. But WOTC doesn’t get it. There are plenty of good games already out there that don’t have nice plastic pieces. The main selling point of this game is the plastic pieces so WOTC should ensure we get plenty of it.
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OK all you ney sayers…
I got a little yellow envelope in the mail today from WOTC containing…
6 Japanese Tac Bombers.
I hate to say it but, that’s a point for WOTC.
The letter I sent them is in this thread. Again, nothing special other than telling them 6 is not enough. The letter that came with the extra 6 was from Sam.
Go get your bombers everyone!
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Congratulations.
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Anyone got any chance? I’d like to get more tac bomber too. But I got a reply that they’ve got extras only for broken/missing gameboard
Robert
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I too got an envelope containing 6 Japanese tac bombers.
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Just curious Butcher, did you also get Sam as your contact? Wonder how long he will continue sending out tac bombers before he gets a “talking to” by management. lol
I got Jamie and was escalated up to Troy but they said nothing about sending anything out other than the battlestrip.
Some days you win vs the Inconsistent-Customer-Service-bear and some days the bear eats you.
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Just curious Butcher, did you also get Sam as your contact? Wonder how long he will continue sending out tac bombers before he gets a “talking to” by management. lol
I got Jamie and was escalated up to Troy but they said nothing about sending anything out other than the battlestrip.
Some days you win vs the Inconsistent-Customer-Service-bear and some days the bear eats you.
I just sent an email to WOTC noting the inconsistencies…I’ll pass along any follow up.
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i just sent WotC another email asking for some more Jap tac bombers. If I do not receive any AAE1940 will be my last AA purchase. Too much money to spend on a game and there is not enough pieces for set up. Thats a shame. WotC should have been sending out extra pieces as soon as the emails came flooding in requesting more.
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@skinny1:
i just sent WotC another email asking for some more Jap tac bombers. If I do not receive any AAE1940 will be my last AA purchase. Too much money to spend on a game and there is not enough pieces for set up. Thats a shame. WotC should have been sending out extra pieces as soon as the emails came flooding in requesting more.
Here is the response that I received from WotC:
The units you see that were sent out in the forums were for for orders that occurred before Game Support had received the correct piece count for the game. So, unfortunately we cannot provide you extra pieces for the game. We do have a limited amount of replacement pieces, but those are for games that are defective, which include having broken or misshapen pieces, or if a game is missing pieces that are supposed to be in the box.
We do appreciate your feedback regarding the number of pieces provided in the game and have passed the comments on to the game designers.
Thank You
Here is the response that I sent WotC:
Thank you for the quick reply. Axis and Allies Europe 1940 will be the last of the games that I will purchase from your company. I find it very unfortunate that a game calls for 10 tactical bombers for set up and only 6 are included. I will be buying games from Days of Wonder and Academy Games from now on. I have never had this poor of customer service or have bought such a shoddy produced game in all my years of buying board games. This is a shame.
Thanks,
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They never indicated that these were their reasons in the correspondence I had with them. Sorry to get you’re hopes up :-( I take back the point I gave them. I really thought they had decided to do the right thing :x
If they have any respect or concern for this community which is the only group that supports the A&A line (other than 1942 at Target) of games, they will give everyone extra pieces with their new battle strips. If they don’t, we should flood their inbox yet again. Don’t give up the fight. I know it seems like all we’re talking about here is 6 plastic pieces, but it’s the idea behind it. With the problems in the game, all we as a group want is a solution. We want the game to be the way it was intended to be by Larry. Not full of missing pieces and incomplete rules.
If we want to have Larry continue to make great games for us we have to continue to support A&A. Please don’t stop buying these games just because WOTC has poor execution. Instead, we must get together and force WOTC to fix their mistakes. Or, as group, we must convince Larry to find another producer. Either way, we win and get to have Larry continue to make great games.
Sorry for the rant, but I fully expected that EVERYONE could get the pieces they need and we could put this issue to rest.
I guess not :x
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They never indicated that these were their reasons in the correspondence I had with them. Sorry to get you’re hopes up :-( I take back the point I gave them. I really thought they had decided to do the right thing :x
If they have any respect or concern for this community which is the only group that supports the A&A line (other than 1942 at Target) of games, they will give everyone extra pieces with their new battle strips. If they don’t, we should flood their inbox yet again. Don’t give up the fight. I know it seems like all we’re talking about here is 6 plastic pieces, but it’s the idea behind it. With the problems in the game, all we as a group want is a solution. We want the game to be the way it was intended to be by Larry. Not full of missing pieces and incomplete rules.
If we want to have Larry continue to make great games for us we have to continue to support A&A. Please don’t stop buying these games just because WOTC has poor execution. Instead, we must get together and force WOTC to fix their mistakes. Or, as group, we must convince Larry to find another producer. Either way, we win and get to have Larry continue to make great games.
Sorry for the rant, but I fully expected that EVERYONE could get the pieces they need and we could put this issue to rest.
I guess not :x
I understand what you are saying in supporting Larry and I agree with that. However, since 1942 was released WotC has been cutting corners by not providing things that used to be a no brainer like IPCs, chips in abundance, correct battle boards/strips, reference cards with piece purchase price, movement, attack and defense points, etc. This is a serious problem and asking people to spend the money that WotC wants for this is beyond insulting. I for one am not going to support this just because a box has Axis and Allies printed on it. Sorry for this but my money will go towards better produced games by other companies like Days of Wonder for Memoir '44 and Academy Games for the Conflict of Heroes games. They have much better production in their games and the support on line is far superior to what WotC has to offer.
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