L24 P2V Mainah X + 10 vs mikawagunichi L

[mikawagunichi]

@mainah Game save is right above, are you away from computer and need a pic or something?

[mainah]

@mikawagunichi
Weird. Your question posted, but I didn’t get the game save till I closed and reloaded my browser.

No scramble.

[mikawagunichi]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: UK_Pacific round 13

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 13

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 3 artilleries, 2 destroyers, 7 infantry and 5 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 destroyer moved from 104 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to 107 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
              Americans take Tunisia from Italians
        1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Egypt to Romania
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Strategic bombing raid in Romania
                Germans roll AA dice in Romania : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            1 bomber owned by the Americans killed by AA in Romania
            Bombing raid in Romania causes 0 damage total. 
        Battle in 96 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 fighter
            Italians defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
        Battle in 107 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 107 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 107 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in 94 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            Italians defend with 1 cruiser
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Italians lost in 94 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
            Casualties for Italians: 1 cruiser

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 bomber moved from 107 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 107 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        33 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone
        4 battleships, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 33 infantry and 17 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        33 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tunisia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Northern Australia to Queensland
        1 battleship, 3 carriers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 56 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 2 carriers, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
        1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland

    Place Units - Americans
        1 destroyer placed in 11 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer placed in 104 Sea Zone
        2 transports placed in 11 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Western United States
        3 transports placed in 104 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 73 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Northern Sinkiang to Eastern Sinkiang
        1 infantry moved from Northern Sinkiang to Western Sinkiang

    Place Units - Chinese
        2 infantry placed in Western Sinkiang

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 4 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 airfield, 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
              UK_Pacific take Shan State from Japanese
        1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        3 submarines moved from 100 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to 101 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 101 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
        Battle in 101 Sea Zone
            British attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the British lost in 101 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser owned by the Italians lost in 101 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 101 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for British: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Italians: 1 cruiser and 1 transport
        Battle in 99 Sea Zone
            British attack with 3 fighters, 5 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
            Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 5 transports
                British roll dice for 5 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                British roll dice for 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 5 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 3 transports owned by the Italians and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
                2 transports owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 99 Sea Zone from Neutral with 3 fighters, 4 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 50
            Casualties for British: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 5 transports

    Non Combat Move - British
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 101 Sea Zone to Iraq
        1 fighter moved from 101 Sea Zone to Syria
        1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Southern Caucasus
        3 aaGuns, 6 armour, 4 artilleries, 30 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern India to Burma
        2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Baluchistan to Eastern India
        4 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Persia to Western India
        1 transport moved from 72 Sea Zone to 73 Sea Zone

    Place Units - British
        1 airfield and 3 infantry placed in Iraq
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Southern Persia

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Eastern India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 132 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,3,5,1,3,2
        UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 7 PUs
        Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 3 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.00
Italians regular : 0.00
Germans AA : 0.83
Germans regular : 0.67
British regular : 0.17

Savegame

[mikawagunichi]

@mainah Ah weird, no problem.

[mainah]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 13

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 13

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 4 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians

    Combat - Italians

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria
        3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy
        1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        4 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 8
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1,2,5,2,6,5,2
        Italians collect 4 PUs (8 lost to blockades); end with 4 PUs
        Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 7 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[mainah]

@mikawagunichi

I think this is the end.

I lost the initiative on both sides of the board 3 rounds ago and have failed to gain it back anywhere. Italy is done, Germany has a huge amount of space to defend in Europe, requiring most to all of this turns purchase and the redeployment of my AirForce. I will now no longer be able to advance in Russia, and in 3 turns will have to start to retreat. Japan is going to be unable to hold Singapore, and subsequently SE Asia, with the obvious knock-on effects. If I try to hold SE Asia, I will no longer be able to handle the tit for tat on the money islands nor hold the Carolines; that is a faster road to ruin.

My attempt to repeat my success by holding Gib hard and early seemed to only help you, draining resources need to take down the Russian bear. And I was a half a step behind where I needed to be in the Pac with the aforementioned loss of those 2 TTs. I think my J1 attack put me too out of position. Good initial boost to the income, but lost time to consolidate a strong long-term position. I’d like to hear your thoughts on this.

Hats off to you sir. I shall post. For the third game, May I ask to be the allies? Haven’t been them in P2V yet.

[mikawagunichi]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: French round 13

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 13

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in 43 Sea Zone
            ANZAC attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers
            Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 43 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 43 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 43 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 43 Sea Zone
            ANZAC win with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Australia to Queensland
        1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 56 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 64 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 64 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from New South Wales to Queensland
        1 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
        3 fighters moved from Eastern India to Iraq

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 artillery placed in New South Wales
        1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 64 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 16 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        2 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0.33
ANZAC regular : -1.83

Savegame

[mikawagunichi]

@mainah

Thanks for the game again, and yes I am happy to switch sides for the next one. Personally, it’s always a bit of a catch 22 for me, because I think the Axis are more fun, but the Allies are more likely to win, at least with my own skillset, especially with average league bid being around 9-10. I think 12 is easily fair.

Japan is considered by many the most difficult country to play. Fighting on at least 4 and possibly 5 fronts, while somehow having to maintain control of the sea lanes and getting enough land units everywhere they need to be.

I think a J1 DOW is difficult to pull off in PTV. The partitioning of the sea zone off Malaya made the “Calcutta Crush” strategy from OOB impossible, so you have to play the long game a bit more. While I still think it is net beneficial for Japan (due to the many cheap/free kills you can get on J1 and only J1), I think the cost to the European Axis of getting the US in the war more quickly generally outweighs the benefit to Japan. That being said, I still love my J1 DOWs and still do it a fair amount of time.

To make it fair, would you like to simply keep the bid at 10 and switch sides?

[mainah]

@mikawagunichi

That would be great.

I was waffling on the J1. I do not J1 in BM4. But P2V seemed to offer a good hit on the allies, while being able to grab a couple of NO’s for a quick boost to japan’s income, which Japan sorely needs.

I am excited to see how one more familiar with this board plays the Axis. While I have no preference on sides overall, I do envy the Allies goal - the Axis have to win, the allies have to not lose. Big difference.

[mainah]

@mikawagunichi

Cant edit my posts all of a sudden. wanted to clarify - I often J1 with OOB. But not BM4. For the effect on the other side of the board.

[mikawagunichi]

@mainah Sounds good, I’ll ponder strategy for a bit, should be able to get the G1 post up tonight.