@donutgold hey there, all ok?
L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50)
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play this out, or call it a game?
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Am I missing any rule that prevents me from ignoring your subs and doing this attack?
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50):
Am I missing any rule that prevents me from ignoring your subs and doing this attack?
you cannot ignore my subs. you need a surface warship for that. At least thats my understanding of the rules :-)
my subs will fight.
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The rules that I see just mention warship. Nothing about needing to be a surface warship. Is there an update that clarifies that?
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However, a transport cannot ignore enemy submarines to offload land units for an amphibious assault unless at least one warship
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50):
However, a transport cannot ignore enemy submarines to offload land units for an amphibious assault unless at least one warship
belonging to the attacking power is also present in the sea zone at the end of the Combat Move phase.Actually I also just read that same phrase. My AA rules brain obviously had something different memorized.
I would like it to be confirmed though for obvious reasons. Would be grateful to get confirmation by @Krieghund or @gamerman01 in order to understand if there are flaws in my brain or if I just cannot find the right passage in the book…
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Good idea to get clarification from a mod.
I also would like a neutral recommendation of a “fair” way to proceed if this was indeed a rule misunderstanding: call it a match, redo non-combat, redo the whole Japanese turn, etc?
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ABH is correct. The US sub is able to ignore all the Jap subs allowing the transport to proceed unobstructed.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris A sub is a warship (though not a surface warship), so the presence of a sub allows enemy subs to be ignored for an amphibious assault.
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@Krieghund so what is your recommendation of a fair way to proceed in this match?
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@Krieghund @AndrewAAGamer Thank you for clarification.
@Arthur-Bomber-Harris This is obviously a major miskate of mine. I am fully OK if you decide to not change anything, and will of course surrender after the loss of Tokyo. I think I am anyways far from where the axis would need to be to have a chance to win this game.
Should you decide to continue with modifications I am of course willing to fight on. Nevertheless it would need to be thought on how to do that…
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@Myygames , how would you propose to address the issue? Go back to non-combat moves and adjust?
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50):
@Myygames , how would you propose to address the issue? Go back to non-combat moves and adjust?
I don’t think it can be done with the NCM alone. I would need to revise the build I guess.
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@pacifiersboard said in L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50):
uh; none I am aware of.
fierce! You might be to be congratulated?
for sportsmanship at least!!
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@Myygames redo the whole Japan turn then including builds and combat. I don’t think it is appropriate to win because of a rule misunderstanding.
Normally I get victory via superior luck.
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sorry, I had loaded the page earlier and not seen all the responses that had be gone already
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50):
@Myygames
Normally I get victory via superior luck.Loool!
This is a lot sportsmanship of yourself! You are Champion allready!
I will rethink and try to give you a revised turn in die time. I am not sure it will take place today though.
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No problem. Take your time. It is such an important turn with so many calculations.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris l22-oob-final-ll-myygames-x-vs-abh-JAP7_edited.tsvg
I have edited the build and NCM as follows: removed 4 subs from SZ6 (+24), build 2 fighters and a INF in Japan (-23), added 1 IPC to Japan. Also, I moved a fighter from FIC to Japan. I still think my other positioning is fine, and hope I have not make other mistakes as well.
This should still give you 20% of winning the battle in Japan, but I will leave it with this. I could have aso deleted the last sub and build a fourth fighter instead of the INF (lowering the japan odds to 10%), but I am not willing to let russia take korea without convoi damage. Lots of odds here, but hey, I could have lost this game allready ;-)
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