PtV - Mr_Stucifer vs Culann

[Culann]

Some quick reflection, I think I was right losing the British fleet probably cost me the game, just not in the way I had thought it did at the time. Had I not lost them to the Lutwaffe I wouldn’t have gone in so hard with US on Europe; containment was working sort of. Sadly, pressing my advantage is usually not one of my failings. Slipping in my old age.

[Culann]

Err not pressing my advantage is usually not one of my failings.

[Culann]

Anyways I won’t deny you the satisfaction of conquering India or Moscow.

[Stucifer]

@Culann Max defense, damage everything first then lose DDs, CVs, BBs in that order before losing planes

[Stucifer]

@Culann said in PtV - Mr_Stucifer vs Culann:

Err not pressing my advantage is usually not one of my failings.

I look forward to your Axis play. :D In most league games of PtV the bid is at least +6 so you can start with an extra transport for a juicy J1 attack on the Western allies. Gets Japan pulling in 46-49 round 1 and usually can grab the rest of the money islands, Manila, for another 15. And you cost US about 55 IPCs worth of units they can save otherwise at the cost of 20-25 of your own on average dice. Makes it pretty tempting 😈😈

[Culann]

@mr_stucifer Mostly I’m just hoping I don’t screw up. It’s hard to process all that information at first and the idea of choosing when to strike gives a lot of strategic options. Given a lot of minor mistakes I made as the Allies I’m not sure how well it’s going to go.

[Culann]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 9

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 9

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 83 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Egypt to 83 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Crete
        1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Syria to 101 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Cyprus
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Sumatra
        1 cruiser moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 128 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from 128 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to France
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone

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[Culann]

Scramble and intercept options. I assume you will intercept but I’m not sure whether you want to scramble to snipe a few infantry.

[Culann]

Err I made a bunch of minor mistakes as the Allies and a few big ones for that matter.

[Stucifer]

@Culann Scramble no, intercept yes, thanks!

[Stucifer]

@Culann I’ve made plenty of mistakes this game too, we are learning all the time. Good for the brain engagement :D

If you aren’t quite ready to play Axis I can play Axis again, no pressure either way sir

[Culann]

@mr_stucifer Yeah, I agree it’s good for the brain engagement.

Nah, no worries I can play the Axis can’t let you have all the fun.

[Culann]

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 armour, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 carrier moved from 55 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        2 destroyers moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        4 submarines moved from 31 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Queensland to 27 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
              British take Alexandria from Italians
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
        2 bombers moved from Gibraltar to Northern Italy
        1 bomber moved from Tunisia to Southern France
        2 infantry moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 98 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Greece

    Combat - Americans
        Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy
                Italians roll AA dice in Northern Italy : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 3,6 and causes: 9 damage to unit: factory_major
            Bombing raid in Northern Italy causes 9 damage total. 
        Strategic bombing raid in Southern France
                Germans roll AA dice in Southern France : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Southern France rolls: 7 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor
            Bombing raid in Southern France causes 6 damage total. 
        Battle in Greece
        Battle in 27 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 5 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports
                Americans roll dice for 5 submarines in 27 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Japanese
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 27 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese and 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports in 27 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 5.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans
                3 submarines owned by the Americans lost in 27 Sea Zone
                1 carrier owned by the Japanese and 2 destroyers owned by the Japanese lost in 27 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 27 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 27 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 27 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/5 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers and 3 transports in 27 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 cruiser owned by the Americans, 2 destroyers owned by the Americans, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans and 1 carrier owned by the Americans lost in 27 Sea Zone
                2 carriers owned by the Japanese lost in 27 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 fighter in 27 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 4 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports in 27 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/6 hits, 3.83 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Americans and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in 27 Sea Zone
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese lost in 27 Sea Zone
            1 bomber owned by the Americans retreated
            Japanese win, taking Greece from Italians with 1 battleship, 3 fighters and 3 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -21
            Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 5 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
            Casualties for Japanese: 3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
            3 fighters owned by the Japanese forced to land in Johnston Island

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Johnston Island: 3 fighters
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Hawaiian Islands: 3 fighters
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        EDIT: 1 bomber moved from 27 Sea Zone to Western United States
        1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Tunisia to 96 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
        2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Malta
        1 bomber moved from Southern France to Malta
        2 bombers moved from Northern Italy to Malta
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
        1 artillery and 1 marine moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        2 destroyers moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Tunisia to Tobruk
        1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Tobruk

    Place Units - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 93 Sea Zone: 1 artillery, 1 marine and 1 transport
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Gibraltar: 1 artillery and 1 marine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 93 Sea Zone: 1 transport
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 11 Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in 11 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Eastern United States
        1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 104 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 57 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        10 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Honan
        1 fighter moved from Tsinghai to Honan

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Honan
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 10 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 5 infantry
                Japanese roll AA dice in Honan : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 10 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 0/11 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Honan
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Honan, round 3 : 2/10 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Honan, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Honan
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Honan
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 6 infantry in Honan, round 4 : 0/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Honan, round 4 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Honan
            1 fighter owned by the Chinese retreated
            4 infantry owned by the Chinese retreated to Tsinghai
            Japanese win with 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
            Casualties for Chinese: 6 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Honan to Tsinghai

    Place Units - Chinese
        3 infantry placed in Tsinghai

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 83 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Egypt to 83 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Crete
        1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Syria to 101 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Cyprus
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Sumatra
        1 cruiser moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 128 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from 128 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to France
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
        Air Battle in France
            British attacks with 1 units heading to France
            Germans launches 1 interceptors out of France
                Attackers Fire,  : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Defenders Fire,  : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
            Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
        Strategic bombing raid in France
                Germans roll AA dice in France : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            1 bomber owned by the British killed by AA in France
            Bombing raid in France causes 0 damage total. 
        Battle in Crete
        Battle in Cyprus
        Battle in Sumatra
        Battle in Norway
            British attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 2 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Norway, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Norway, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Norway
            British win, taking Crete from Italians, taking Cyprus from Italians, taking Sumatra from Japanese, taking Norway from Germans with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
        Cleaning up after air battles

    Non Combat Move - British
        3 destroyers moved from 113 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 113 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 128 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to 128 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Egypt to Iraq
        1 armour moved from Egypt to Iraq

    Place Units - British
        1 destroyer placed in 73 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs
        Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 46 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Eastern India: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Burma: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Eastern India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
        Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -3.67
Americans regular : 0.50
Japanese regular : 0.33
Japanese AA : -0.17
Defenders Fire,  : -0.33
Germans AA : 0.67
Attackers Fire,  : -0.17
Germans regular : -0.67
British regular : 0.17
Italians AA : -0.33

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[Stucifer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in 96 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 96 Sea Zone
            Italians win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[Stucifer]

I assumed no scramble (2 planes vs 5)

[Culann]

@mr_stucifer Yup.

[Culann]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: ANZAC round 9

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        2 destroyers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 55 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Queensland to 27 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

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[Culann]

Gave you an interesting choice.

[Stucifer]

@Culann Yeah I considered double-teaming the fleet of Greece for a bit. Thought it would be too costly for Italy long-term to sacrifice all my air force though. Don’t have a reasonable expectation of rebuilding it any time in the next 5-6 turns…

[Culann]

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        2 destroyers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 55 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Queensland to 27 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

    Combat - ANZAC
        Japanese scrambles 3 units out of Hawaiian Islands to defend against the attack in 27 Sea Zone
        Battle in Java
        Battle in 27 Sea Zone
            ANZAC attack with 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 3 fighters and 3 transports
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 27 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 fighters and 3 transports in 27 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the ANZAC and 2 destroyers owned by the ANZAC lost in 27 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber owned by the ANZAC retreated
            1 cruiser owned by the ANZAC retreated to 31 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Java from Japanese with 1 battleship, 3 fighters and 3 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -26
            Casualties for ANZAC: 2 destroyers and 1 fighter
        Moving scrambled unit from 27 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Hawaiian Islands
        Moving scrambled unit from 27 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Hawaiian Islands
        Moving scrambled unit from 27 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Hawaiian Islands

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 carrier moved from 64 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 27 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Queensland to 31 Sea Zone

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 fighter placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 18 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 21 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Combat - French

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.33
ANZAC regular : -2.33

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