Sorry! Did the game on local and totally thought I had done it for real. Also man did those British boats get work done this game lol.
L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50)
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l22-oob-final-ll-myygames-x-vs-abh-l-50-UK2b.tsvg
I accidentally undid my plane support for the small Siam fight. I can redo that battle, or keep with the rolled dice which were favorable to you (your 2 inf got one hit).
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from Guam to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 carriers, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 aaGun moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Western United States Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 54 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 63 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 54 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 49 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 49 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 62 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 63 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 62 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 53 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Kweichow Combat - Chinese Battle in Kweichow Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Yunnan from Japanese to Chinese EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Sikang 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Sikang EDIT: 4 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan Place Units - Chinese 5 infantry placed in Yunnan Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 8 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 14 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - British British takes Political Action: Political Action British To War With Japanese British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to Unprovoked British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Unprovoked British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Unprovoked British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Combat Move - British 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland 1 infantry moved from Shan State to Siam 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kiangsi Chinese take Kiangsi from Japanese Combat - British Battle in Siam British attack with 1 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry British roll dice for 1 infantry in Siam, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Siam, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Siam Japanese win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Siam: 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in Scotland British attack with 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Germans defend with 1 airfield and 1 infantry British roll dice for 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Scotland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Scotland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Scotland British win, taking Scotland from Germans with 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 infantry moved from Shan State to Yunnan 2 aaGuns and 2 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 2 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia British take Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to 76 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to 76 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 transports moved from 76 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Morocco to Tunisia 1 mech_infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo 1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to Trans-Jordan 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Trans-Jordan 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Trans-Jordan 1 artillery moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 artillery moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar 1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to Scotland 1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to Scotland 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil British take Brazil from Neutral_Allies 1 armour moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan EDIT: 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone EDIT: 2 transports moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone Place Units - British 1 factory_minor placed in Egypt 1 airfield placed in Trans-Jordan 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 119 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6,5,5,6,1,4,6,3 British collect 31 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 35 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 40 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrysCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.33 Japanese regular : 1.00 Germans regular : -0.33 British regular : 0.17 -
@Arthur-Bomber-Harris all Edits are fine for me
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Sorry that this is delayed.
Reason behind is that the general of the Japanese continental forces needed to travel to Japan, being summoned by the Tenno. The Tenno then lectured him basic arithmetic for two hours before releasing him of all duties. A new general was put in place, but due time was needed to make sure he owns the necessary basic knowledge in mathematics and is able to transfer the correct numbers from a board to a battle calculator.
No, seriously, this calculation error is a mess that I needed to digest first. I think I am stable again and will try to work on italy soon.
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@Myygames yeah, you put a little bit too many forces to threaten the United States fleet.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris l22-oob-final-ll-myygames-x-vs-abh-l-50-ITA2.tsvg
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Italians Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia Italians take Bessarabia from Russians 1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland Italians take Eastern Poland from Russians 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Baltic States Italians take Baltic States from Russians 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria Italians take Alexandria from British 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta Combat - Italians Battle in Malta Non Combat Move - Italians 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Romania 2 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Italy to Greater Southern Germany Place Units - Italians 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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l22-oob-final-ll-myygames-x-vs-abh-l-50-F2b.tsvg
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea 1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia 1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State Place Units - ANZAC 1 fighter placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 15 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 63 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 63 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 1 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial Africa 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris I saw that my japanese edit is not reflected in the current safe. I have traced and think that you have used the initial file with the allies.
I will redo this edit (1 Bomber Kwangsi to Caroline). I assume it does not change your ANZAC move, let me know if it does.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris l22-oob-final-ll-myygames-x-vs-abh-l-50-GER3.tsvg
I am sure you know that you need to declare war on Germany with Russia to prevent the NO bug. Pls dont forget ;-)
Game History
Round: 3 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans Non Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 aaGun moved from Poland to Baltic States 4 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Romania 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy 5 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland 1 transport moved from 119 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 119 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 119 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from France to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany 7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris
AGRH!
Forgott to correct that damm japanese edit agin!
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@Myygames could you show me the note discussing the NO bug for Russia?
Sorry for the wrong version after Japan. I will make some minor non-combat edits in the Pacific that should not have impact on Italy or Germany’s decisions.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50):
@Myygames could you show me the note discussing the NO bug for Russia?
This is trippleA miscalculating the political situation in Europe. Russia is at war in Europe (with Italy) and the German sub in 125 does prevent the NO for Russia, even though Russia is not at war with Germany. The rulebook says axis warship here which a German sub is.
I have no link to any discussion to offer, but I have asked the rule gurus of this forum several times in other games and they confirmed this to be a trippleA misbehavior every time. We can do again if you like.
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@Myygames @Arthur-Bomber-Harris
have a look in Game Notes - it will be in there if I remember right
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I object that the German sub shouldn’t disrupt convoys when not at war with either the United States or Russia, but it does appear to be the rule. I edited the PUs by -5 at the end of the R3 turn.
I truly despise those Italian tanks. Worth the sacrifice to get rid of them. l22-oob-final-ll-myygames-x-vs-abh-l-50-R3.tsvg
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 4 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States 1 artillery moved from Belarus to Baltic States 1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland Combat - Russians Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Germans defend; Italians defend with 1 armour Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Baltic States Russians win, taking Baltic States from Italians with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Battle in Eastern Poland Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Germans defend; Italians defend with 1 armour Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 1.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Eastern Poland Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Non Combat Move - Russians 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 4 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia Russians take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 armour moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia 1 fighter moved from Volgograd to Persia 1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia 1 fighter moved from Volgograd to Yunnan 1 aaGun and 11 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel 7 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Russia 2 aaGuns and 18 infantry moved from Amur to Sakha 1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Russia Place Units - Russians 4 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Russia 1 infantry placed in Volgograd Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 42 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Unfortunately you are not allowed to move land units into territory containing friendly units during combat. I need clearance how to proceed…
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Combat: A power can’t attack a territory controlled by or containing units belonging to a power with which it is
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@Myygames do you want to ask a moderator to arbitrate since I have always been able to attack Italy if Germany doesn’t DoW?
You can redo G3 if the ruling says I can attack these territories. I will redo R3 if I lose the dispute.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50):
@Myygames do you want to ask a moderator to arbitrate since I have always been able to attack Italy if Germany doesn’t DoW?
You can redo G3 if the ruling says I can attack these territories. I will redo R3 if I lose the dispute.
Please check your rule book, page 14 in mine. My last post was a quote and it should leave no questions. If you do not find it we can ask the moderator for guidance.
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both issues are dealt with in Game Notes:
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(EM) If Russia is at war with Italy, but not with Germany, a German warship in sz125 will cancel Russia’s national objective (and same if at war with Germany but not Italy, and there is an Italian boat in sz125).
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(PE) You may not attack a territory containing units owned by a nation that you are not at war with (even if the territory is owned by someone you are at war with).
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@pacifiersboard said in L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50):
both issues are dealt with in Game Notes:
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(EM) If Russia is at war with Italy, but not with Germany, a German warship in sz125 will cancel Russia’s national objective (and same if at war with Germany but not Italy, and there is an Italian boat in sz125).
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(PE) You may not attack a territory containing units owned by a nation that you are not at war with (even if the territory is owned by someone you are at war with).
That is great, did. not know that the game rules are so rich!
@Arthur-Bomber-Harris i agree that you should redo Russia.
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@Myygames sure, will redo.
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