BOOM AND DOOM!
1914 TGC (CP) vs. Yamato (Entente), RR, no bid
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This was the turn where (imo) the mistake was/is most obvious. You pulled units out of Italy and sent them against the Ottomans. The Austrians had a wonderful +20 TUV attack into the vital territory of Venice. Not only were those Italians better off defending Italy (more French troops were needed in Venice as well) but when Italy falls, anything they captured in the Ottoman Empire becomes ‘dead income’. The Entente are down two IPC and they really need every dollar they can get if things go badly or some kind of mistake is made.
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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in 1914 TGC (CP) vs. Yamato (Entente), RR, no bid:
I’ll say it:
If Germany invades Holland, either that’s a stupid move or you’re losing.
Why? It’s free money the Germans basically add at no cost on their way to the front at this point in the game.
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It’s a stupid move early in the game if you need every unit.
If you have so many units that you can afford it, it is undoubtedly a good move.
And a very bad sign for the Allies.
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Game History
Round: 30 Puchase Units - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians buy 4 fighters and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - AustroHungarians 3 units repaired. 8 infantry moved from Serbia to Bulgaria 4 fighters moved from Serbia to Bulgaria 6 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia 4 fighters moved from Vienna to Serbia 6 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste Combat Move - AustroHungarians Place Units - AustroHungarians 4 fighters and 6 infantry placed in Vienna Turn Complete - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs -
Game History
Round: 30 Puchase Units - Germans Germans buy 21 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 6 units repaired. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Piedmont: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Switzerland: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Piedmont: 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Munich to Switzerland 1 infantry moved from Hanover to Munich 21 artilleries, 4 fighters, 74 infantry and 6 tanks moved from Picardy to Burgundy 1 infantry moved from Lorraine to Burgundy 2 infantry moved from Belgium to Picardy 3 artilleries, 8 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Belgium to Lorraine 20 infantry moved from Holland to Belgium 1 artillery and 17 infantry moved from Kiel to Holland 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel 1 infantry moved from Prussia to Poland 1 infantry moved from Berlin to Prussia 18 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover Combat - Germans Battle in Burgundy Germans attack with 21 artilleries, 4 fighters, 75 infantry and 6 tanks Americans defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 21 artilleries, 4 fighters, 75 infantry and 6 tanks in Burgundy, round 2 : 44/106 hits, 45.83 expected hits French roll dice for 2 infantry in Burgundy, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Burgundy Germans win, taking Burgundy from French with 21 artilleries, 4 fighters, 75 infantry and 6 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Germans owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1 EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Lorraine: 2 tanks EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Lorraine: 2 tanks EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Germans owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - Germans 21 infantry and 1 tank placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 69 PUs; end with 69 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : -1.00 Germans regular : -1.83 -
Should’ve said “when”, not “if”.
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To be honest, I never thought of the armour of tanks as minus 6 power for the defender. Makes a lot of sense now that you mention it though.
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Thanks for helping!
So to be clear it wasn’t just this move, but rather a policy of using Italians to take Ottoman territories when it would’ve been better to keep them at the mainland and let the British take those territories to boost their income? Thank you!
I’ll respond to the actual game tommorow.
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Yes.
The British don’t need help over there and can make better use of those IPC. In fact, the British would rather you hold what you got on the west and Italian fronts while they beat down the Ottomans.
Anticipate what will strike Venice. When the Austrians deploy their purchase, imagine 100% of it coming towards Italy and use the Italians and French (usually 3/4 a turn) to build them up in Venice. Keep that TUV swing in your favor by at least 3-6.
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Thank you for the advice. I really appreciate it. :+1: :+1: :+1:
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Game History
Round: 30 Puchase Units - French French buy 1 artillery and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Place Units - French 1 artillery and 7 infantry placed in Paris Turn Complete - French French collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 30 Puchase Units - British British buy 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 4 infantry moved from Ankara to Constantinople 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 tank moved from Mesopotamia to SZ 20 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 tank moved from SZ 20 to Constantinople 4 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Ankara 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 tank moved from Persia to Mesopotamia 4 fighters moved from Mesopotamia to Ankara 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 tank moved from India to Persia 4 fighters moved from Persia to Mesopotamia Combat Move - British Place Units - British 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 tank placed in India Turn Complete - British British collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 30 Combat - Italians Italians creates battle in territory SZ 17 Turn Complete - ItaliansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 30 Puchase Units - Americans Americans buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 11 infantry moved from Bordeaux to Paris 8 infantry moved from Canada to SZ 2 8 infantry and 4 transports moved from SZ 2 to SZ 16 8 infantry moved from SZ 16 to Marseilles 8 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1 8 infantry and 4 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14 8 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spain Combat Move - Americans Place Units - Americans 8 infantry placed in United States of America Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 30 Puchase Units - Americans Americans buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 11 infantry moved from Bordeaux to Paris 8 infantry moved from Canada to SZ 2 8 infantry and 4 transports moved from SZ 2 to SZ 16 8 infantry moved from SZ 16 to Marseilles 8 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1 8 infantry and 4 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14 8 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spain Combat Move - Americans Place Units - Americans 8 infantry placed in United States of America Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 31 Puchase Units - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians buy 3 fighters and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - AustroHungarians 3 units repaired. 4 fighters and 6 infantry moved from Serbia to Bulgaria 6 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia 4 fighters and 6 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste 4 fighters moved from Trieste to Serbia 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Moscow Combat Move - AustroHungarians Place Units - AustroHungarians 3 fighters and 7 infantry placed in Vienna Turn Complete - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs -
Game History
Round: 31 Puchase Units - Germans Germans buy 21 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 9 units repaired. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Piedmont: 3 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Piedmont: 3 infantry EDIT: Changing ownership of Piedmont from AustroHungarians to Germans EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by French from SZ 15: 1 mines EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to SZ 15: 1 mines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Moscow to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Poland to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Moscow to Karelia 1 infantry moved from Prussia to Poland 1 infantry moved from Berlin to Prussia 1 infantry moved from Picardy to Brest Germans take Brest from French 1 infantry moved from Picardy to Burgundy 1 tank moved from Burgundy to Piedmont 5 tanks moved from Burgundy to Marseilles 1 infantry moved from Switzerland to Piedmont 2 infantry moved from Belgium to Picardy 1 infantry moved from Burgundy to Bordeaux Germans take Bordeaux from French 1 fighter moved from Burgundy to Piedmont 1 fighter moved from Burgundy to Marseilles 1 infantry moved from Munich to Switzerland 3 artilleries, 8 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Lorraine to Burgundy 2 artilleries moved from Burgundy to Piedmont 5 artilleries moved from Burgundy to Marseilles 5 infantry moved from Burgundy to Marseilles 3 infantry moved from Burgundy to Marseilles 1 artillery moved from Burgundy to Piedmont 2 infantry moved from Burgundy to Piedmont 2 artilleries moved from Burgundy to Marseilles 18 infantry moved from Belgium to Lorraine 1 artillery and 17 infantry moved from Holland to Belgium 2 infantry moved from Kiel to Holland 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel 18 infantry moved from Hanover to Munich 18 infantry and 1 tank moved from Berlin to Hanover Combat - Germans Battle in Marseilles Germans attack with 7 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 5 tanks French defend with 1 port; Americans defend with 8 infantry Germans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 5 tanks in Marseilles, round 2 : 8/21 hits, 10.50 expected hits French roll dice for 8 infantry in Marseilles, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 4.00 expected hits Units damaged: 4 tanks owned by the Germans 8 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Marseilles Germans win, taking Marseilles from French with 7 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 5 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24 Casualties for Americans: 8 infantry Battle in Piedmont Germans attack with 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tank Americans defend with 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tank in Piedmont, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 4.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 3 infantry in Piedmont, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the Germans 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Piedmont Germans win with 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Americans: 3 infantry Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by French from SZ 16: 1 mines EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to SZ 16: 1 mines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - Germans 21 infantry and 1 tank placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 78 PUs; end with 78 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 1.50 French regular : 0.00 Germans regular : -3.33 -
Game History
Round: 31 Puchase Units - French French buy 2 artilleries and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - French 3 transports moved from SZ 9 to SZ 5 3 transports moved from SZ 5 to SZ 9 Combat Move - French Place Units - French 2 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in Paris Turn Complete - French French collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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