I cut it many times and came up with Axis +1.20. Have to do some fancy footwork to get the flank stats “right”.
We’re going to go with Axis +1.20. Back to you
kilorynothere L (+12) vs Mainah X BM
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Scramble 110?
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@kilroynothere
There’s that….and there’s the objectives. Check those out. Big changes there. -
@mainah No scramble in sz110.
and yeah, the new objectives gives both sides a LOT of reasons to be working hard in the med. I always thought it was hard for Italy to get moving in the Med with only the two rather simplistic objectives, and little reason for UK to get in there until much later. Now… a heck of a lot more interesting. looking forward to seeing how that plays out. Already different!
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@kilroynothere
Game HistoryRound: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 5 armour, 1 bomber, 5 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. 1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece 3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Greece 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece 2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Greece 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in Greece Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Greece, round 2 : 5/9 hits, 3.67 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies, 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Greece Germans win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 2 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 3 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship Germans roll dice for 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the British and 1 cruiser owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone Germans win with 2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 cruiser Casualties for British: 1 battleship Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 infantry and 3 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco Germans take Morocco from Neutral_Axis 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 6 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Germany 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy Place Units - Germans 5 armour and 5 mech_infantrys placed in Germany 1 bomber placed in Western Germany 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Neutral_Allies regular : 2.67 Germans regular : 2.50 British regular : 0.33Dice Statistics:
Total 1 was rolled 34 times 2 was rolled 43 times 3 was rolled 46 times 4 was rolled 40 times 5 was rolled 45 times 6 was rolled 33 times Average roll : 3.490 Median : 3.000 Variance : 0.645 Standard Deviation : 0.803 Total rolls : 241 Germans Combat 1 was rolled 13 times 2 was rolled 21 times 3 was rolled 18 times 4 was rolled 17 times 5 was rolled 13 times 6 was rolled 11 times Average roll : 3.312 Median : 3.000 Variance : 0.777 Standard Deviation : 0.882 Total rolls : 93 British Combat 1 was rolled 4 times 2 was rolled 7 times 3 was rolled 9 times 4 was rolled 8 times 5 was rolled 10 times 6 was rolled 4 times Average roll : 3.595 Median : 4.000 Variance : 0.780 Standard Deviation : 0.883 Total rolls : 42 Italians Combat 1 was rolled 5 times 2 was rolled 5 times 3 was rolled 6 times 4 was rolled 2 times 5 was rolled 3 times 6 was rolled 7 times Average roll : 3.500 Median : 3.000 Variance : 0.642 Standard Deviation : 0.801 Total rolls : 28 French Combat 1 was rolled 3 times 2 was rolled 3 times 3 was rolled 4 times 4 was rolled 3 times 5 was rolled 7 times 6 was rolled 4 times Average roll : 3.833 Median : 4.000 Variance : 0.522 Standard Deviation : 0.722 Total rolls : 24 Neutral_Allies Combat 1 was rolled 3 times 2 was rolled 2 times 3 was rolled 1 times 4 was rolled 2 times 5 was rolled 1 times Average roll : 2.556 Median : 2.000 Variance : 0.688 Standard Deviation : 0.829 Total rolls : 9 Chinese Combat 1 was rolled 2 times 2 was rolled 3 times 3 was rolled 2 times 4 was rolled 3 times 5 was rolled 4 times 6 was rolled 3 times Average roll : 3.765 Median : 4.000 Variance : 0.177 Standard Deviation : 0.421 Total rolls : 17 Japanese Combat 1 was rolled 4 times 2 was rolled 2 times 3 was rolled 6 times 4 was rolled 5 times 5 was rolled 7 times 6 was rolled 4 times Average roll : 3.750 Median : 4.000 Variance : 0.568 Standard Deviation : 0.754 Total rolls : 28 -
@mainah Well, I guess I did enough to prevent a sealion attempt. Time to get the Eastern front started!
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 6 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia 1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Ukraine 1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine 1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Ukraine 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Smolensk to Belarus 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Western Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Vologda to Smolensk Place Units - Russians 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Novgorod 3 infantry placed in Ukraine 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@kilroynothere
Yes sir! I have never done one. A few feints, with a willingness to do it if the opportunity is good, but no opponent as given me the benefit of the doubt and left London weak. -
@mainah I’ve only done a few and each was because of not properly defending London by trying to do too much elsewhere in UK1. With the three tts and a saved BB. Really put UK, under some pressure to defend Scotland AND London. Great opening.
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Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor and 2 marines; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Politics - Japanese Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied Combat Move - Japanese 3 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan 7 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 5 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan Combat - Japanese Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 7 fighters, 3 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 3 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 7 fighters, 3 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 7/17 hits, 8.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 bombers, 7 fighters, 1 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 bombers, 7 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Siam to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe 1 artillery moved from Chahar to Anhwe 1 aaGun moved from Jehol to Anhwe 1 fighter moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi 1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 carrier placed in 6 Sea Zone 2 marines placed in Japan 1 factory_minor placed in Kiangsu Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 32 PUs; end with 34 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 1.00 Japanese regular : -1.67 -
Hey @mainah Sorry for the delay. I’ve been swamped at work getting ready for a little vacation. I’m hopeful to get something to you today or tomorrow so you can plot your twisted Italian take-over of the world! I will be out of contact 9/20 - 27.
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@kilroynothere
No rush at all. Enjoy your vacation! -
@mainah Hey there. Have not forgotten! I got back from vacation and in a really good way, got swamped. Might need to take more vacations so more work comes in! I did take a look at the game. Wow! what a great opening you have made. Going to take some careful moves ahead to thwart the Axis. I have time today/tonight so hopefully will get that to you bey end of the evening. Very sorry for the delay and, as always, I appreciate the patience.
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@mainah I’ve finally carved out time! And I love your opening even more as it really is making me dance to your beat. Good stuff.
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 carrier moved from 101 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 102 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 102 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Western United States to Central United States 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Guam to 26 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 57 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Central United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 54 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Shensi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@mainah Well got slightly lucky on the Atlantic fleet action. Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 carrier moved from 101 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 102 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 102 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Western United States to Central United States 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Guam to 26 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 57 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Central United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 54 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Shensi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Scotland to 91 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 91 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Malta to 91 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 91 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 3 transports British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 3 transports in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 carrier owned by the Germans lost in 91 Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 91 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 3 transports in 91 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 2 transports owned by the Germans lost in 91 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 91 Sea Zone British win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 55 Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 3 transports Casualties for British: 1 cruiser Non Combat Move - British 1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to British Guiana 1 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies 2 infantry moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Ethiopia to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory 1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malta to Egypt 1 fighter moved from Malta to Egypt 1 fighter moved from Malta to Egypt 1 mech_infantry moved from Scotland to Eire British take Eire from Neutral_Allies 2 aaGuns and 4 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 transport moved from 76 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone Place Units - British 1 factory_minor placed in Persia 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa 1 destroyer placed in 106 Sea Zone Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,2 British collect 28 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 30 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 17 PUs; end with 18 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 1 fighter and 2 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -2.00 British regular : 1.00 -
@kilroynothere
I wouldnt say lucky. You deserved that battle.For some reason I missed how much air you could send there.
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@mainah well, that is the FIRST time i have ever landed air in south america! This game and version makes some interesting things happen. Rather like it so far.
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@kilroynothere
I have seen it once.
And I re-saw the possibility 3 days ago. Course, that was a bit too late. -
@mainah Ha! Yes, a bit late. I’ve done it too with the German navy leaving tts out in the open after a Sealion. Didn’t notice that UK had taken Ireland at some point… US bombers took my all navy out in one fell swoop. Just completely missed it.
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Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Italians Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Combat Move - Italians 2 armour moved from Romania to Eastern Poland Italians take Eastern Poland from Russians 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 81 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kenya to Ethiopia Italians take Ethiopia from British Combat - Italians Battle in 81 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 bomber British defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the British lost in 81 Sea Zone Italians win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for British: 1 transport Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from 81 Sea Zone to Tobruk 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Tunisia Italians take Tunisia from Neutral_Axis 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria Italians take Algeria from Neutral_Axis 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk 2 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria 1 aaGun moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone Place Units - Italians 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective Italians 3 North Africa Control: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 29 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Don’t know why I did think of it before - but have you looked at the Chinese guerilla rule? Might affect you strategy.
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