@cwglee51 I run into an error trying to open the file. “Null pointer exception.”
Maybe it is an issue with us using incombatible versions. What version are you using?
BM 23 Playoff Final Gamerman (L+4) vs Farmboy (X)
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 3
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3
Game History
Round: 3 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 infantry, 10 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Combat Move - Germans 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from Poland to Novgorod Germans take Baltic States from Russians Germans take Novgorod from Russians 1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia Germans take Bessarabia from Russians 1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux Combat - GermansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@farmboy need scramble orders for 109 and will likely need casualty choice for normandy
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@farmboy also very annoyed that i put that sub in 108 and not 118. For some reason I thought it was more than 3 spaces away from the French.
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It was a hard decision. I had a different good option, didn’t want it to go to 110 and disrupt the NO yet again
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No way on the scramble
I don’t want to give this OOL in advance. I’ll be away from my computer for an hour or 2
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@gamerman01 2 first round hits. My thinking that that is good enough to assume max d going forward and that you won’t want to conserve the AA.
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@farmboy but I’ll wait. I’m off too.
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Incorrect. If you kill everything but the AA, your units get sucked in to Normandy, and depending on the dice I might have just wanted that.
With 2 hits, take AA and French infantry.
Next would be French arty
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Oh, I suppose you meant with 2 hits, that’s your thinking. Still, be careful to assume, I take unconventional casualties and do unconventional scrambles from time to time
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@gamerman01 In this case because you don’t have a counter (unless you use allied air) I figured you wouldn’t want to draw me in. My goal was to take it. But my odds were around 94% so there was a possibility that you would win. And I thought you might be interested in conserving the AA if I was doing poorly.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3
Game History
Round: 3 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 infantry, 10 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Combat Move - Germans 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from Poland to Novgorod Germans take Baltic States from Russians Germans take Novgorod from Russians 1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia Germans take Bessarabia from Russians 1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux Combat - Germans Battle in 109 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 109 Sea Zone Germans win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry British defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry; French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 4/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux 1 infantry owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 2 bombers moved from 109 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries and 24 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Romania 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 8 armour and 11 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States Place Units - Germans 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Western Germany 10 mech_infantrys placed in Germany Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Baltic States: 1 mech_infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Eastern Poland: 1 mech_infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 53 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : 0.33 Russians regular : -0.17 Germans regular : 1.00 -
Not a big deal here, just trying to avert future misunderstandings.
If you did poorly, and finally hit everything but 1 unit, I might have saved the AA and drew in remaining units
The mech would be farther from Russia, and the slow would be 2 spaces from West Germany and North Italy, and that could be a factor too. I generally don’t like giving advance OOL’s, especially when my opponent won’t have to wait long. Sometimes anticipating all the possible OOL’s in advance make my brain hurt and I shouldn’t have to do them - advance OOL’s are a courtesy to the playing player and don’t benefit the defender
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Woohoo, I got 2 out of 5 hits AND your units are drawn in? Victory!! :joy:
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@gamerman01 All sounds fine to me. And I get that an OOL in advance is a favour to the attacking player. I don’t mind waiting. In this case I wasn’t asking for OOL in advance, just letting you know that I might need it once i rolled. I was assuming though that if I had a decent roll, that it was safer to assume a max D situation. I’ll be sure to ask if I think there is any uncertainty, and if I make that assumption in the future and I get it wrong, I’ll defer to you in how we correct that.
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I suppose one could play where they try to soften the allies in Normandy but avoid taking it to keep it French. But that hadn’t occurred to me at that point. I just wanted to take it, avoid using air, and was annoyed that I didn’t have one more land unit in range.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 3
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 3 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Politics - Japanese Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Trigger Russians Allied Americans 5: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur Japanese take Amur from Russians 4 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Hopei 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese 1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma 1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Jehol to 19 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Philippines 1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Burma 1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Burma 2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Kwangtung 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Burma 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Burma 1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Philippines 1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Burma Combat - Japanese Battle in Java Battle in Borneo Battle in Celebes Battle in 39 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 submarine ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 39 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking 39 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Sumatra Battle in Malaya Battle in Philippines Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Philippines, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Philippines 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines Japanese win, taking Sumatra from Dutch, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific, taking Philippines from Americans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Battle in Burma Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 aaGun and 3 infantry; ANZAC defend with 1 infantry British roll AA dice in Burma : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Burma, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 5.00 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.33 Japanese regular : -0.17 British AA : -0.50 -
@farmboy 4 hits on Burma. Save the AA or an inf?
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@farmboy said in BM 23 Playoff Final Gamerman (L+4) vs Farmboy (X):
I suppose one could play where they try to soften the allies in Normandy but avoid taking it to keep it French. But that hadn’t occurred to me at that point. I just wanted to take it, avoid using air, and was annoyed that I didn’t have one more land unit in range.
I generally don’t like the idea of keeping Normandy blue. It lets the USA land air there immediately, and it does have a naval base. You can usually keep the US from holding it for a turn anyway. Furthermore, US can collect 5 while only taking Holland or South France if Normandy is French. And then there’s whatever allied units are there… And then, obviously, the 2 IPC’s per turn. That’s a lotta negatives
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After considering a multitude of factors…
Save the UK infantry
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