if all you edited was the 3 ships to 115 then R shud still be good as is
2022 2nd Ed OOB Playoffs R2 - AndrewAAGamer (X) vs ArthurBomberHarris (A+60)
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I was also confused by the dice since I saw the same thing
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So go with BB tip, AC tip, and 2 SS
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You got 4 hits and I lost the carriers. I got 5 non-sub hits
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AC tip, SS, DD, 2 AC hit
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battle over. I retreated. No more questions until Anzac
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Where is the AA gun for the Caucasus?
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Hmm, It looks like it did not get edited in. Ok - never mind. Not sure how to fix it now that would be fair. At least I don’t owe you one now. :)
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Yeah, you forgot a second time so I just went ahead. Only so many chances to make corrections in a playoff game
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Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from Queensland to 42 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 56 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 45 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 54 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 55 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 3 fighters, 4 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Russia to Caucasus 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus Combat - Americans Battle in 42 Sea Zone Americans attack with 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 4 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 3 submarines Americans roll dice for 4 submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese and 1 battleship owned by the Japanese Japanese roll dice for 3 submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 4 fighters in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 5.17 expected hits 2 carriers owned by the Americans lost in 42 Sea Zone 2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone Americans roll dice for 4 submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 4 fighters in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 7/10 hits, 5.17 expected hits 4 submarines owned by the Americans, 2 destroyers owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in 42 Sea Zone 1 carrier owned by the Japanese, 2 destroyers owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans and 3 fighters owned by the Americans retreated Japanese win with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -32 Casualties for Americans: 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 4 submarines Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 3 submarines Battle in Caucasus Americans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 2 armour Americans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 armour in Caucasus, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caucasus 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Caucasus 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans and 2 fighters owned by the Americans retreated Italians win with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 armour 4 fighters owned by the Japanese forced to land in Java Non Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Russia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 fighter moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Northwest Persia 1 bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Gibraltar 1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 carrier, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone 2 armour, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 armour and 4 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 transport moved from 88 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Normandy Bordeaux 1 bomber moved from Western United States to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Gibraltar 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Western Australia 1 armour moved from Queensland to Western Australia 1 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Territory 1 submarine moved from 30 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia 1 artillery moved from Queensland to South Australia 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 30 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 10 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 3 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Central United States 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 1 artillery and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Anhwe Chinese take Anhwe from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shantung Chinese take Shantung from Japanese 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe 13 artilleries, 1 fighter and 13 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan Combat - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 1 artillery placed in Anhwe 1 infantry placed in Anhwe 5 infantry placed in Hunan Chinese undo move 3. 1 infantry placed in Sikang 1 infantry placed in Tsinghai 1 infantry placed in Kansu 1 infantry placed in Shensi 1 infantry placed in Szechwan Chinese undo move 7. Chinese undo move 6. Chinese undo move 5. Chinese undo move 4. Chinese undo move 3. Chinese undo move 2. 3 infantry placed in Shensi 3 infantry placed in Hunan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 24 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State 1 bomber moved from India to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from India to Shan State 1 fighter moved from India to Shan State 1 armour moved from Burma to Hunan Combat - British Battle in Shan State British attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State British win, taking Shan State from Japanese with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Caucasus British attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 armour British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Caucasus, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Caucasus British win, taking Caucasus from Italians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Non Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Trans-Jordan 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Russia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia 3 armour moved from Persia to Northwest Persia 1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Northwest Persia 1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Shan State to India 1 fighter moved from Shan State to India 1 battleship moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from Tunisia to Algeria 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Burma to India 1 aaGun moved from Burma to India Place Units - British 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Persia British undo move 1. 1 artillery and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Persia 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 infantry placed in Egypt 1 infantry placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 37 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 armour placed in India Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Persia: 1 artillery EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Persia: 1 armour EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United Kingdom: 1 armour EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 1 artillery EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armourCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -1.33 Italians regular : 0.50 Japanese regular : -0.33 British regular : -0.17 -
TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Urals to Evenkiyskiy Italians take Evenkiyskiy from Russians 1 armour moved from Evenkiyskiy to Yenisey Italians take Yenisey from Russians 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria Italians take Alexandria from British Combat - Italians Non Combat Move - Italians 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Norway 1 mech_infantry moved from Urals to Archangel 1 aaGun moved from Tobruk to Alexandria 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Yugoslavia 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy Place Units - Italians 2 infantry placed in Southern France Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 13 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,2,5,5 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,4,2,5,3,2,3,2,4,4,4,6,5 Italians collect 5 PUs (13 lost to blockades); end with 5 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Queensland to 42 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from New South Wales to 42 Sea Zone Combat - ANZAC Battle in 42 Sea Zone ANZAC attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 submarines Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 cruiser ANZAC roll dice for 3 submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 carrier owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone ANZAC roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone 1 battleship owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone ANZAC win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30 Casualties for Japanese: 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 cruiser Casualties for ANZAC: 3 submarines Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to Western Australia 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from South Australia to Western Australia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone Place Units - ANZAC 2 submarines placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 13 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 18 PUs Combat Move - French 3 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk French take Tobruk from Italians 1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium French take Holland Belgium from Germans 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 fighter moved from Persia to Russia Combat - French Non Combat Move - French Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@andrewaagamer said in 2022 2nd Ed OOB Playoffs R2 - AndrewAAGamer (X) vs ArthurBomberHarris (A+60):
AC tip, SS, DD, 2 AC hit
You did not take my casualties as stated above in the US/Jap battle. You took both DDs instead of the second AC. Thus, there should have been a DD in the battle with ANZAC instead of the tipped AC. Only difference is the DD would have fired back from the sub hit so I am owed a single dice roll with a hit on a 1-2. Since you were the active Player doing the rolling I will let you do the roll via Forum unless you want me to do it.
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@andrewaagamer Sorry, I thought I was following the instructions exactly.
If you want to have that DD instead of the carrier, I would need to redo the whole battle as I would be bringing in different number of subs. Do you want to let the battle stand as rolled, or have me redo the ANZAC turn?
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There is no reason to redo the entire battle. If you want to bring in an extra sub to avoid a possible loss of a plane then go ahead. Please declare that before rolling.
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I see now what happened. Those instructions were ambiguous as I thought it meant a second AC hit instead of 2 destroyed aircraft carriers, and then TripleA took the extra hit as a destroyer which I didn’t notice.
Bringing in an extra sub for that ANZAC counter-strike turns the adjustments very difficult as it affects more than one round. I ask for either a total redo, or let the dice stand as rolled.
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Seems an easy fix to me. However, since you think it is difficult and we are only talking about one third of a sub so I will let it go.
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on average, it would be the same as the extra sub would have 1/3rd of a chance to have killed the Battleship that did hit on turn 2.
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@arthur-bomber-harris said in 2022 2nd Ed OOB Playoffs R2 - AndrewAAGamer (X) vs ArthurBomberHarris (A+60):
on average, it would be the same as the extra sub would have 1/3rd of a chance to have killed the Battleship that did hit on turn 2.
Good point.
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If you guys can’t agree on a fix, one option is to have gamerman make a ruling
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