@VictoryFirst Very good. Please see https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/14440#issuecomment-4535730485 too. I think this issue urgently needs more attention, too.
In any case we need a solution that is compatible with both forums.
TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR rule
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Game History
Round: 2 Puchase Units - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians buy 1 fighter and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - AustroHungarians 1 fighter moved from Vienna to Trieste 4 artilleries and 18 infantry moved from Galicia to Poland 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Serbia to Trieste 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Serbia to Albania 1 infantry moved from Romania to Galicia 4 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Romania to Budapest Combat - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians creates battle in territory Romania Battle in Romania AustroHungarians attack with 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 2 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Neutral_Allied roll dice for 1 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Romania AustroHungarians win, taking Romania from Neutral_Allied with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Albania AustroHungarians attack with 1 artillery and 5 infantry British defend with 2 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Albania AustroHungarians win, taking Albania from Italians with 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in Trieste AustroHungarians attack with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 1 port Italians defend with 3 artilleries and 2 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry in Trieste, round 2 : 7/13 hits, 6.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 3 artilleries and 2 infantry in Trieste, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 3 artilleries owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Trieste AustroHungarians win with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 3 infantry Casualties for Italians: 3 artilleries and 2 infantry Combat Move - AustroHungarians Place Units - AustroHungarians 1 fighter and 7 infantry placed in Vienna Turn Complete - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians collect 33 PUs; end with 35 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.50 Neutral_Allied regular : -0.50 AustroHungarians regular : 1.67 -
By the way consider this:
You said that Germany should attack Poland if Russia does the Polish Defence if Austria Hungary captured Romania.
Germany doing this is very bad for Russia.
With these two pieces of information, I concluded:
Russia should only do the Polish Defence if Austria Hungary failed in Romania.
Is this true? Thank you!
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Change the amount of Austro-Hungarian and German infantry lost to your preferred amount.
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Game History
Round: 2 Puchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 fighters and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from SZ 2: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to SZ 14: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode British roll mine dice in SZ 8 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits French roll mine dice in SZ 16 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine lost in SZ 16 3 artilleries and 18 infantry moved from Silesia to Poland 1 fighter moved from Berlin to Poland 1 artillery moved from Hanover to Munich 1 infantry moved from Hanover to Munich 1 infantry moved from Ruhr to Munich 6 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Belgium to Alsace 3 artilleries moved from Hanover to Silesia 1 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr 1 infantry moved from Alsace to Munich 1 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover 6 infantry moved from Berlin to Silesia 1 cruiser moved from SZ 9 to SZ 14 1 submarine moved from SZ 14 to SZ 16 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from South West Africa to Angola 2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Angola 1 infantry moved from Nigeria to Togoland Combat - Germans Germans creates battle in territory SZ 9 Air Battle in Poland Germans attacks with 1 units heading to Poland Russians launches 1 interceptors out of Poland Attackers Fire, : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Defenders Fire, : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Poland 1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Poland Air Battle is over, the attackers have all died Battle in Angola Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Angola, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Angola, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Angola British and Germans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 artillery Battle in SZ 9 Germans attack with 1 battleship British defend with 1 mines; Russians defend with 1 battleship Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in SZ 9, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship in SZ 9, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in SZ 9 British win with 1 battleship remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12 Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship Battle in Poland Germans attack with 9 artilleries and 26 infantry Russians defend with 14 artilleries and 15 infantry Germans roll dice for 9 artilleries and 26 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 16/35 hits, 14.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 14 artilleries and 15 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 16/29 hits, 14.50 expected hits 14 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 artilleries owned by the Russians and 16 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland Russians and Germans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 16 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 artilleries and 14 infantry Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Poland: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Galicia: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - Germans 2 fighters and 10 infantry placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 38 PUs; end with 40 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Defenders Fire, : 0.67 Attackers Fire, : 0.67 Russians regular : 1.50 Germans regular : 0.00 French mine : 0.83 British mine : -0.17 British regular : 0.33 -
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Game History
Round: 2 Puchase Units - Ottomans Ottomans buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Ottomans 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Arabia to Mesopotamia 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia 1 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia 1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara 1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Arabia 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Smyrna 3 infantry moved from Constantinople to Smyrna 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Constantinople 1 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Sevastopol Ottomans take Sevastopol from Russians Combat - Ottomans Battle in Smyrna Ottomans attack with 4 infantry French defend with 1 infantry Ottomans roll dice for 4 infantry in Smyrna, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Smyrna, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Smyrna Ottomans win, taking Smyrna from French with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Combat Move - Ottomans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from SZ 21: 1 mines EDIT: Adding units owned by Ottomans to SZ 21: 1 mines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - Ottomans 7 infantry placed in Constantinople Turn Complete - Ottomans Ottomans collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : -0.50 Ottomans regular : 1.67 -
Please answer the question I asked above about Russian strategy.
Sorry if that seemed too confrontational or aggressive.
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@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR rule:
By the way consider this:
You said that Germany should attack Poland if Russia does the Polish Defence if Austria Hungary captured Romania.
Germany doing this is very bad for Russia.
With these two pieces of information, I concluded:
Russia should only do the Polish Defence if Austria Hungary failed in Romania.
Is this true? Thank you!
There is something about that first sentence that is confusing me but, generally speaking - yes, I personally do not like to attack Poland with Germany if Russia is there in force and Austria was hung in Romania.
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I guess my first sentence was confusing.
You didn’t say it in your videos, but from what I pieced together, it seems like Russia should only do the Polish Defence if Austria-Hungary had trouble in Romania because otherwise the fatal weakness of the strategy (Germany tying Russia up and Austria-Hungary moving into Ukraine) would be exposed.
So what I’m basically asking is if this is true:
Russia should only attempt the Polish Defence if Austria-Hungary didn’t destroy all Russian units in Romania.
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@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR rule:
I guess my first sentence was confusing.
You didn’t say it in your videos, but from what I pieced together, it seems like Russia should only do the Polish Defence if Austria-Hungary had trouble in Romania because otherwise the fatal weakness of the strategy (Germany tying Russia up and Austria-Hungary moving into Ukraine) would be exposed.
So what I’m basically asking is if this is true:
Russia should only attempt the Polish Defence if Austria-Hungary didn’t destroy all Russian units in Romania.
I don’t feel I came off that black and white in the video - but again, correct. I don’t care to execute the Polish defense as Russia unless Austria was hung up in Romania. I have played against decent Entente opponents who do it every time regardless of the outcome.
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@superbattleshipyamato My last sentence can be better written. *HOWEVER, I have played against decent Entente opponents who do it every time regardless of what happened with Austria in Romania. My doing the Polish defense is a personal choice. I don’t think the Polish defense is a bad strategy at all - I just think its riskier for the Entente and the Entente do not need to take risks.
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Game History
Round: 3 Puchase Units - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - AustroHungarians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Galicia: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Vienna: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Poland: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 5 infantry moved from Trieste to Tyrolia 7 infantry moved from Vienna to Tyrolia 1 infantry moved from Albania to Trieste 1 infantry moved from Albania to Trieste 4 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Budapest to Galicia Combat - AustroHungarians Battle in Tyrolia AustroHungarians attack with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 12 infantry Italians defend with 2 artilleries and 5 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 12 infantry in Tyrolia, round 2 : 9/17 hits, 7.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 5 infantry in Tyrolia, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 2 artilleries owned by the Italians and 5 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tyrolia AustroHungarians win, taking Tyrolia from Italians with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 4 infantry Casualties for Italians: 2 artilleries and 5 infantry Combat Move - AustroHungarians Place Units - AustroHungarians 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 8 infantry placed in Vienna Turn Complete - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians collect 33 PUs; end with 34 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Thanks for responding!
I wasn’t sure about what should Russia do in games I played against myself, so I’m glad you helped clarify.
Thanks also for telling me about what other players do.
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Thanks for clarification!
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Game History
Round: 3 Puchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Angola to Union of South Africa 9 artilleries and 19 infantry moved from Alsace to Munich 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Munich to Tyrolia 1 infantry moved from Ruhr to Alsace 1 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr 2 infantry moved from Hanover to Munich 1 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel 4 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover 5 infantry moved from Berlin to Silesia 3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Silesia to Poland 2 fighters moved from Berlin to Hanover Combat - Germans Battle in Poland Germans attack with 12 artilleries and 17 infantry; AustroHungarians loiter and taunt Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 12 artilleries and 17 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 10/29 hits, 13.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland Germans win with 12 artilleries and 16 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Union of South Africa Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Union of South Africa, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Union of South Africa, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits British and Germans reach a stalemate Combat Move - Germans Place Units - Germans 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 8 infantry placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 0.50 Germans regular : -5.00 British regular : -0.50 -
I screwed up big time…
I wanted to not attack Angola on the previous British turn, but I forgot to edit the unit back in.
I assumed you would’ve stayed in Angola, and I moved accordingly.
Edit Africa accordingly if you think you would’ve withdrawn as Germany to Southwest Africa (the only place you could’ve gone).
I also forgot to have British units load a French transport last turn so I also did that.
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Game History
Round: 3 Puchase Units - Ottomans Ottomans buy 1 artillery and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Ottomans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of South West Africa from British to Germans EDIT: Removing units owned by British from South West Africa: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Union of South Africa: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to South West Africa: 1 artillery and 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Tatarstan Ottomans take Tatarstan from Russians 1 infantry moved from Arabia to Mesopotamia 2 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Arabia 2 infantry moved from Smyrna to Trans-Jordan 1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Bulgaria 1 artillery and 12 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara Combat - Ottomans Combat Move - Ottomans Place Units - Ottomans 1 artillery and 6 infantry placed in Constantinople Turn Complete - Ottomans Ottomans collect 24 PUs; end with 25 PUs -
@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR rule:
I screwed up big time…
I wanted to not attack Angola on the previous British turn, but I forgot to edit the unit back in.
I assumed you would’ve stayed in Angola, and I moved accordingly.
Edit Africa accordingly if you think you would’ve withdrawn as Germany to Southwest Africa (the only place you could’ve gone).
I also forgot to have British units load a French transport last turn so I also did that.
That’s fine. I misinterpreted that and assumed you pulled out without checking the history. In that case the Germans go Southwest Africa and the UK are minus one IPC. Fixed in this file here: O3 final edit.tsvg
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