GovZ (A+60) vs ABH kjf test Low Luck

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

60 bid - subs 39, 91, 98, 110; fighters Malta & Scotland; Bomber in Egypt. 4 in cash to the US.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

G1 proposal.tsvg

Scrambles?

[GovZ]

@arthur-bomber-harris said in GovZ (A+60) vs ABH kjf test Low Luck:

G1 proposal.tsvg

Scrambles?

5 fighters to 109.

Submerge 110.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

G1 proposal B.tsvg

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

Non-League match. somehow got in the wrong sub-forum

[GovZ]

@arthur-bomber-harris said in GovZ (A+60) vs ABH kjf test Low Luck:

G1 proposal B.tsvg

No scramble. Submerge.

I’ll be out for the holiday tomorrow. Feel free to get R1 out of the way, so you can do J1. No attacks. Build 5 inf, 3 mechs, & a fighter. DOW on Japan. Stack Sakha. Planes & fast movers toward Sikang. I can edit the other NCMs on the main Allied turn.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

@govz G1 end.tsvg

You will have to register with the dice server to get the dice results.
https://dice.marti.triplea-game.org/

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

J1 end.tsvg

standard Cow J1 opener. Please adjust western Russia as appropriate.

[GovZ]

@arthur-bomber-harris said in GovZ (A+60) vs ABH kjf test Low Luck:

J1 end.tsvg

standard Cow J1 opener. Please adjust western Russia as appropriate.

UK1 - combat.tsvg

I registered with marti, but couldn’t figure out how to properly set up the game file. UK1 combat move attached. Scramble? Submerge? OOL for SZ95?

And I guess this would be a good time to ask - the sub in SZ98 should be able to attack SZ95, but TripleA doesn’t allow it. I’m not sure why. Is that a legal move?

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

1. No scramble.
2. I will set it up for dice server on the Italian turn. You have to select play by email to get the dice server option
3. That sub can attack, you just have to manually route it to avoid the Italian destroyer.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

R1 stack in Amur.tsvg

Stacking in Amur looks like a losing move even with an additional bid to add more units to the pile. It usually results in a very weak Moscow that Germany can easily crush on G6.

[GovZ]

uk1.tsvg

The more I think about it, the more I like the Amur stack with any G1 opening. It takes a transport, so it does stop a J1 Cow. The BS and extra income really help the southern fleet. And with those territories all being worth 1, the income difference isn’t that much. But that’s for different test run.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

I have never seen a successful Amur stack in a League game. Perhaps there is some way to make it work with a large Allied bid.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

Italy 1.tsvg

Quite nice income for Italy so early in the game.

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Greece
        1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland
              Italians take British Somaliland from British
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to British Somaliland

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Gibraltar
        Battle in Greece
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
            Italians win, taking Gibraltar from British, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
        Battle in Yugoslavia
            Italians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Neutral_Allies defend with 1 infantry
            Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Yugoslavia: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Yugoslavia: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Romania
        1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya
        1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy
        1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 14 PUs; end with 16 PUs
        Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs

[GovZ]

Franzac1.tsvg

I screwed up and didn’t move the sub from the Channel to SZ92. How would that have changed It1? Take Cyprus? Still build a DD?

[GovZ]

@arthur-bomber-harris said in GovZ (A+60) vs ABH kjf test Low Luck:

I have never seen a successful Amur stack in a League game. Perhaps there is some way to make it work with a large Allied bid.

It seems any Allied strategy needs a large bid to work.

Would you happen to know of any league games with an Amur stack I can look at? I’m not sure I’ve seen it in a while.

It probably is a deadend, but I wouldn’t mind testing it out.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

@govz I still would have built a DD and taken Gibraltar on Italy 1 even with a UK sub in SZ92. I would need a plane to support the transport, but that still gave me good enough odds to take Greece.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

G2.tsvg

Game History

Round: 2

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 4 armour, 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 6 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Germans
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
              Germans take Vyborg from Russians
        6 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
              Germans take Karelia from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
              Germans take Baltic States from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
              Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
              Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Gibraltar
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Gibraltar
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland

    Combat - Germans
        Germans creates battle in territory 113 Sea Zone
        Battle in 96 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 cruiser
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 cruiser in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in 96 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
            Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
        Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Germans attack with 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
            French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
            Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
            Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in 115 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 submarine
            Russians defend with 1 cruiser
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 115 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 2 bombers and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        2 armour, 2 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Bessarabia
        4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
        3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
        3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern Italy
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        6 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Yugoslavia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
        3 submarines moved from 106 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        4 armour and 6 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany
        1 destroyer placed in 113 Sea Zone
        1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3
        Germans collect 42 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 42 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 0.33
Russians regular : -0.50
Germans regular : 0.00
British regular : 0.50

[GovZ]

R2.tsvg

How do I post the turn summary?

[GovZ]

@arthur-bomber-harris said in GovZ (A+60) vs ABH kjf test Low Luck:

@govz I still would have built a DD and taken Gibraltar on Italy 1 even with a UK sub in SZ92. I would need a plane to support the transport, but that still gave me good enough odds to take Greece.

A plane can’t clear the SZ. You would need to bring a boat.