Game 2: VictoryFirst (Axis) vs barnee (Allies) - G40 House Rule Expansion by The Captain

barnee

So I fckd up the big battle a little. I guess when Army Group Flags are present, should do the edit battle as they don’t get a hit point.
Also I had 3rd Corps active out of moscow and they shouldn’t have been.

We can reroll it if you want, but the ultimate outcome won’t change and you rolled exceptionally well, so i doubt it’d be an improvement. Most likely a worse outcome.

Your choice tho

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Early 1942 and Comrade Stalin has Ordered Mass Conscription for the Red Army !<br><br>Up to 26 Army Conscripts are Available This Turn Only.<b></body>
        Trigger Army Conscript: buyArmy_Conscript added to productionRussians
        Russians buy 6 1_PUs and 26 Army_Conscripts; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 

    Place Units - Russians
        3 1_PUs placed in Caucasus
        3 1_PUs placed in Soviet Far East

    Combat Move - Russians
        Trigger Russians RemoveLendLeaseFee: has removed 3 1_PUs owned by Russians in Soviet Far East
        Trigger Russians RemoveLendLeaseFee: has removed 3 1_PUs owned by Russians in Caucasus
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 Europe_Rail and 2 Rails placed in Russia
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Soviet Far East: 3 usa_armours
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Soviet Far East: 3 armour
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Caucasus: 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Caucasus: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Russians takes Bulgaria from Germans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
        EDIT: 1 russian_para moved from Rostov to Bulgaria
        1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 1 Soviet_Commisar_3, 4 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 elite, 16 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        3 infantry and 2 russian_paras moved from Rostov to Ukraine
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Ukraine
        9 Russian_Rocketss, 1 Soviet_Commisar_3, 3 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine

    Combat - Russians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Battle in Belarus
            EDIT: Changer loiter and taunt; Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 5 infantry
            EDIT: Germans defend with 2 german_paras; Changer defend
                EDIT: 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                EDIT: 2/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                EDIT: 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
            EDIT: 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 german_paras owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
            EDIT: Russians takes Belarus from Germans
            EDIT: Russians win
            EDIT: Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 5
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Battle in Ukraine
            Russians attack with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 9 Russian_Rocketss, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 2 Soviet_Commisar_3s, 7 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 elite, 4 fighters, 19 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys, 2 russian_paras and 2 tactical_bombers
            Germans defend with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Waffen_Artys, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 waffen_infantrys
                Russians roll dice for 9 Russian_Rocketss in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/9 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                9 Russian_Rocketss owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 2 Soviet_Commisar_3s, 7 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 elite, 4 fighters, 19 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys, 2 russian_paras and 2 tactical_bombers in Ukraine, round 2 : 17/52 hits, 17.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Waffen_Artys, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 waffen_infantrys in Ukraine, round 2 : 20/30 hits, 15.67 expected hits
                19 infantry owned by the Russians, 4 waffen_infantrys owned by the Germans, 1 ArmyGroupActive owned by the Germans, 2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the Russians, 1 Waffen_Oberst owned by the Germans, 4 infantry owned by the Germans, 2 Waffen_Artys owned by the Germans and 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 2 Soviet_Commisar_3s, 7 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 elite, 4 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys, 2 russian_paras and 2 tactical_bombers in Ukraine, round 3 : 13/32 hits, 13.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 Panzer_General3, 1 Waffen_Oberst, 5 armour and 1 waffen_infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 6/12 hits, 6.33 expected hits
                2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians, 1 Panzer_General3 owned by the Germans, 1 waffen_infantry owned by the Germans, 1 ArmyGroupActive owned by the Russians, 3 artilleries owned by the Russians, 1 Waffen_Oberst owned by the Germans and 5 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
            Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 Soviet_Commisar, 2 Soviet_Commisar_3s, 7 armour, 1 artillery, 1 elite, 4 fighters, 2 russian_paras and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
            Casualties for Germans: 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Waffen_Artys, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 waffen_infantrys
            Casualties for Russians: 1 ArmyGroupActive, 9 Russian_Rocketss, 4 artilleries, 19 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 Europe_Rail owned by Russians in Western Ukraine
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 2 Rails owned by Russians in Bryansk
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
        1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
        1 Europe_Rail and 1 elite moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Belarus
        1 armour moved from Urals to Russia
        5 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda
        2 Rails moved from Russia to Siberia
        1 armour moved from Soviet Far East to Amur
        2 Rails moved from Siberia to Soviet Far East
        2 Rails and 2 armour moved from Soviet Far East to Bryansk
        1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Russians
        6 Army_Conscripts placed in Volgograd
        20 Army_Conscripts placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 33 PUs; end with 41 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 44 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 4.00
Russians regular : -3.50
EDIT: : -0.83

barnee

@VictoryFirst hmm … I just reread the Revised rules and it doesn’t say anything about Army Groups not counting as a hit point. I thought I had asked The captain at some point and that they didn’t.

I’m not certain though.

@The-Captain Do Army Group Markers get a Hit Point ?

VictoryFirst

@barnee

Alright, I just looked at that battle, and there are indeed some errors in it. I don’t think the result will be much different though if we reroll, so I think it’s best if we continue this as it is. No problem brother :)

To answer your question - no, Army Groups are not separate units that can be selected as a casualty. They just provide an extra two die rolls in combat, when certain conditions are met, and that is 2 armies + 10 other land-based combat units.

In round 2, you had only 8 land-based combat units, so the AG bonus should have been removed as well. I think in these big battles we have to use EDIT mode so that we can remove those AGs in mid-battle. This will make these battles a bit more difficult though, since we have to count up all the hits manually.

Anyway, the general who came up with the idea to move into Ukraine will get shot at once!

barnee

@victoryfirst heh heh the fuhrerer approves. I think I had enough for a AG though. @ corps and that 3rd corps counts. I will look again.

Yea this our second game and the biggest battle ever :)

We still working it out :)

I think edit is what we’ll have todo for AG battles. We both had one though so, figured a wash. You crushed on rolling even with my extra Corps activated lol

Tough duty but you can still recover the situation. I had 10 more dudes survive in test battle lol

All good Brother :) The War Continues

barnee

@VictoryFirst yea had 1st and 2nd Corps with 2 Tanks and a mech each as well as 16 Inf and 5 Arty from start, so enough for AG.

Anyway, it’s only game 2 were both still learning. The Edit thing you found is Awesome !

Totally Agree. Army Group is an Idea, All Units Contribute. Armies/Corps are represented by Individual Units

I’ve been playing for over 15 years with triplea, and have never encountered it :)

The Edit Thing lol

No one on the triplea site has ever said anything about it either. Maybe they did, but not well documented if so.

Probably close to 20 years. The unstables were way less than anything 1.xx lol :)

ha ha ha :grin:

The Captain

Hi @barnee,

An Army Group Marker has only one purpose:

To indicate the increased strength by cohesion of the Armies and combat units within that Army Group.
This cohesion is rewarded with 2 extra dice rolles in both defense (“5”) and attack (“4”).

An Army Group Marker does not count as a combat unit or Facility - the Army Group Marker can therefore not be chosen as a casualty or take any damage hit.

barnee

@the-captain Right Arm :muscle: Captain

Thanks for the quick response :)

That was the Biggest Battle Victory and I have had. Game 2 as well.

Victory explained it correctly also. He’s on it. Caught me fckn up a couple times already :)

Hope you can game with the canadian in Stockholm :)

VictoryFirst

@barnee
Hmm, I think something is wrong with the sea zones up north.

Sea zone 3 should be bordering sea zone 8.

Also, sea zone 25 should be bordering sz 14.

VictoryFirst

@Barnee @Black_Elk

Lol, I was looking at that American fleet up there and I thought: “Hmm, this doesn’t feel right. The sea zones look different.” I then went ahead and checked, turns out it did :)

I then looked if there were more, and found a bit further down another one.

I believe that’s everything unless I missed something too lol.

If Elk has time to fix this, that would be great. Your map looks so awesome, I am having such a blast! Just looking at the map makes me happy lol.

Black_Elk

@victoryfirst good eye! I’ll fix em up when I get home

Pacific underwent quite a few adjustments on the other map before morphing into G40, so wouldn’t surprise me that the blocking had some stuff going the drift. Should be a quick fix for those, since sz stuff is a bit quicker to change on the relief. I’ll shoot you something tonight in a few hours

:)

Black_Elk

OK I sent the basic UHD with correction to your email.

Looks like this now…

This correction requires adjustments to the centers.txt and the polygons.txt. To do the same with for your map with the boxes, you maybe need to run the center picker and polgyon grabber again to make sure it has the stuff you changed for the boxes. Also the sea zone numbers in the decorations for that txt. I sent all the UHD stuff to beelee.
I would suggest updating that first, and then using those polgyons and centers files to make your updates for the Expansion stuff with the boxes.

Here is the baseline with boxes…

https://www.dropbox.com/s/477bfi22fl6bzo7/baseline_uhd_global_1940_boxes_5-9-23.png?dl=0

Here is the draft relief with boxes to match…

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vcv41futml9drf1/relief_uhd_global_1940_boxes_basic_5-9-23.png?dl=0

For the inside of the boxes you just let me need to know what kind of look you want, whether you want specific graphics for those areas or just the basic terrain sort of look like other colored areas of the map.

Hope that helps, and again nice catches!
Have fun :)

barnee

@victoryfirst said in Game 2: VictoryFirst (Axis) vs barnee (Allies) - G40 House Rule Expansion by The Captain:

Your map looks so awesome, I am having such a blast! Just looking at the map makes me happy lol.

:grin:

barnee

I think this is all of em. Guess i could move that USA trprt in SZ 4 but f it :) Give il something to bitch about lol

Screenshot from 2023-05-09 22-55-03.png

barnee

@VictoryFirst up to date. Same link https://github.com/beelee1/global_40_expansion_uhd

Thanks Elk

barnee

@VictoryFirst Thanks for being on the team. You have proved invaluable :)

barnee

@Black_Elk So cool you made the Aleutuians longer. It just looks way more BadAss lol

Like Victory says " I’m Happy just looking at the Map "

LOL

barnee

Keep forgetting :) You need Wolfpack in110

barnee

American satellite lol

Screenshot from 2023-05-10 03-52-11.png

barnee

@VictoryFirst

Think I’m gonna make that my screensaver lol

barnee

@Black_Elk

What do you think ? A 5x9 Hanging on the wall lol

Ok I’ll stop

P Out

Game 2: VictoryFirst (Axis) vs barnee (Allies) - G40 House Rule Expansion by The Captain

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