L23 OOB Al3xanderTheGr8 (X) vs Booper (L+38)

[Al3xanderTheGr8]

@al3xanderthegr8 Not sub, I would never keep a sub. I meant I would keep a destroyer, so you can’t have a sneak attack. I realize that may have been confusing.

[Booper]

@al3xanderthegr8

Yep, I think I got it correct, my subs never got a sneak attack. Finally some luck on the US side in this battle, really needed it!

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Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 infantry moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to 6 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 4 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 46 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea
        1 artillery moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea

    Combat - Americans
        Japanese scrambles 1 units out of Japan to defend against the attack in 6 Sea Zone
        Battle in New Guinea
        Battle in 6 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters and 5 submarines
            Japanese defend with 2 battleships, 3 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Americans roll dice for 5 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Japanese
                Americans roll dice for 3 carriers, 2 destroyers and 5 fighters in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 3 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 1 fighter in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/9 hits, 4.50 expected hits
                3 submarines owned by the Americans, 2 destroyers owned by the Japanese, 1 submarine owned by the Japanese, 1 carrier owned by the Americans and 3 cruisers owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 carriers, 2 destroyers and 5 fighters in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 6/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 1 submarine owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese, 2 battleships owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone
            Americans win, taking New Guinea from Japanese, taking 6 Sea Zone from Japanese with 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 66
            Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 4 submarines
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 battleships, 3 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 bomber moved from Queensland to Midway
        1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 6 fighters and 4 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        4 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        2 artilleries moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar

    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier and 3 transports placed in 10 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in Western United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 60 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kansu
        1 fighter moved from Tsinghai to Kansu

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Kansu
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kansu, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kansu
            Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Kansu to Tsinghai

    Place Units - Chinese
        2 infantry placed in Tsinghai

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 2 PUs; end with 2 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 armour, 2 bombers and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific repair damage of 13x factory_major; Remaining resources: 9 PUs; 
        UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        2 submarines moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia
        1 artillery moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia
        2 fighters moved from Persia to Ethiopia
        3 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from India to Burma
        2 fighters moved from West India to Burma
        1 tactical_bomber moved from West India to Burma
        3 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia

    Combat - British
        Battle in 94 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 submarine
            Italians defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 94 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
        Battle in 93 Sea Zone
            British attack with 2 submarines
            Italians defend with 1 destroyer
                British roll dice for 2 submarines in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 93 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 93 Sea Zone from Italians with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for British: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Ethiopia
            British attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 armour
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Ethiopia, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Ethiopia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Ethiopia
            British win, taking Ethiopia from Italians with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Italians: 1 armour
        Battle in Burma
            British attack with 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 20 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                British roll dice for 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 20 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Burma, round 2 : 5/26 hits, 6.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma
            British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 19 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 fighters moved from Ethiopia to British Somaliland
        1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
        2 artilleries moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
        1 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
        3 aaGuns moved from India to Burma
        2 infantry moved from West India to India
        1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from India to Burma
        1 infantry moved from India to Burma
        2 fighters moved from Burma to India
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to India
        2 infantry moved from India to Burma

    Place Units - British
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Persia
        2 bombers placed in Quebec

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        3 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.33
Americans regular : 6.33
Italians regular : 0.17
Japanese regular : 0.67
British regular : 1.17

[Booper]

@Al3xanderTheGr8

Oops, got too excited, and didn’t finish Non-Coms for UK. Updated here.

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[Al3xanderTheGr8]

@booper GG man, I cant recover from my blunder in Europe.

[Booper]

@al3xanderthegr8

GG, well played. The Major in Romania was a great move, I thought you were going to have to retreat all the way back to close to Germany with your stack. If you retreat to Romania and drop 10 artillery there, it makes it very costly for Russia to keep advancing. I think there was still a lot of game left to be played, but with the Allies having stabilized and holding onto an income advantage, it was probably just a matter of time. Enjoyed it!

[Al3xanderTheGr8]

@booper
Yea, I mean I could have gone into turtle mode and hoped you’d make a big mistake but I’d rather just end that one and start a new one if you want. I really messed up in Europe with those German tanks. I tried to grab too much too fast instead of focusing on using my early advantage to take Moscow. I got greedy. Also, this is the first game I’ve played with the bid being so high. I underestimated the impact that would have.

[Booper]

@al3xanderthegr8

Yep, makes sense.

Yeah, the 38 bid looks to actually be fairly typical in OOB. I see some matches with Allies at 58-60 level, and the Axis actually won in several of those cases!

Only fair I offer you back the same terms - if you want to take Allies at 38 OOB, or if you prefer another crack playing Axis. I’m good either way if you want to get another game going.

Could also try out Balanced Mod, where the bids are much more modest.

[Al3xanderTheGr8]

@booper Lets do it. I’ll take Allies for the same bid. I started a new thread.
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/39862/l23-oob-al3xanderthegr8-l-38-vs-booper-x-game-2