PTV 23 666 +12 axis v ArtofWar

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    @666

    You have my attention and wondering what’s next, that’s for sure.

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    @666

    The UK Fighter from Malta was supposed to attack the Italian DD in 98 but some how ended back in Malta. With your permission, I’ll roll for it on the Forum. Between this and the Chinese debacle, I don’t think I should have played today.

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    @artofwar1947 said in PTV 23 666 +12 axis v ArtofWar:

    @666

    The UK Fighter from Malta was supposed to attack the Italian DD in 98 but some how ended back in Malta. With your permission, I’ll roll for it on the Forum. Between this and the Chinese debacle, I don’t think I should have played today.

    yeah, go ahead

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    @666

    Thanks.

    [dice 1d6<=3]


  • 1d6<=3: 3; Hits: 1

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    @artofwar1947 you were just being greedy in China…

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    @666

    95% chance of winning; still should have added a fourth infantry.

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    @artofwar1947 said in PTV 23 666 +12 axis v ArtofWar:

    @666

    95% chance of winning; still should have added a fourth infantry.

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    I’ve lost too many 3inf and fgt vs lone inf to even attempt that if it is important…

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    @666

    Although the average outcome for winning was 1 inf and a fighter (and taking back Yunnan), Chinese were just trying to wipe out the Japanese inf and art. Figured 4 inf was overkill and a waste. Did not count on Marti hostility to common sense.

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    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British
            1 armour moved from Albania to Bulgaria
            1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Yugoslavia
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Tobruk to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
                  Italians take Alexandria from British
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to British Somaliland
                  Italians take British Somaliland from British
            1 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Greece, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Greece, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
                Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Italians attack with 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 2 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 2 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
                Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 2 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
    
        Place Units - Italians
            2 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 74 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4
            Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -0.00
    Neutral_Allies regular : -2.00
    

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    @ArtofWar1947

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 6 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 8 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
            Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Established Switch: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans
    
        Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
            Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            5 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                  Germans take Baltic States from Russians
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
                  Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                  Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
    
        Combat - Germans
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            2 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Baltic States
            6 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
            5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Germany
            1 armour moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from France to Holland Belgium
            2 artilleries moved from France to Western Germany
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
    
        Place Units - Germans
            6 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Germany
            2 infantry placed in Western Germany
            2 infantry placed in Western Germany
            1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 116 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 128 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,3
            Germans collect 39 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 39 PUs
            Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Territory Summary for Germans :

    Western Germany : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 4 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
    Holland Belgium : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
    Romania : 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 9 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    Slovakia Hungary : 1 aaGun
    Germany : 5 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 6 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Karelia : 1 flag, 6 infantry
    Bessarabia : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Vyborg : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Baltic States : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 3 armour, 3 artilleries, 15 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys
    Southern Italy : 1 fighter
    Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    France : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 factory_minor
    Finland : 1 flag
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    112 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    116 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport
    109 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 42 / 47
    Russians : 39 / 46
    Japanese : 37 / 47
    Americans : 53 / 54
    Chinese : 10 / 10
    British : 29 / 39
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 15 / 15
    ANZAC : 13 / 13
    French : 1 / 0
    Dutch : 5 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 14 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 3 / 0
    Neutral_True : 20 / 0
    

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    @ArtofWar1947 use this file, replacing a ss with a trn…

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    @666

    If I understand the rule correctly, the Soviet sub in SZ 116 requires the German ships, including the TTs, to remain in the SZ and fight or move to another SZ. So, the TTs could not load troop during either the CM or the NCM afterward. Moreover, having been in combat, the TTs could not move during the NCM. As moving to SZ 117 would involve creating a contested SZ, the TTs can load there either during the CM or NCM. During the CM, the TTs could move to SZ 11 but then could not reach SZ 118 during the NCM. Is this your understanding? If not, I need to reconsider the subs NCM.

    R2-39821.tsvg

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    @666

    Good grief. was so involved in thinking about the sub, I forgot to move the tank and MI from the Ukraine to Bryansk.

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    @666

    …and two infantry in Russia to Bryansk. A mind is a terrible to thing to lose.

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    @artofwar1947 said in PTV 23 666 +12 axis v ArtofWar:

    @666

    If I understand the rule correctly, the Soviet sub in SZ 116 requires the German ships, including the TTs, to remain in the SZ and fight or move to another SZ. So, the TTs could not load troop during either the CM or the NCM afterward. Moreover, having been in combat, the TTs could not move during the NCM. As moving to SZ 117 would involve creating a contested SZ, the TTs can load there either during the CM or NCM. During the CM, the TTs could move to SZ 11 but then could not reach SZ 118 during the NCM. Is this your understanding? If not, I need to reconsider the subs NCM.

    R2-39821.tsvg

    It is my understanding that a surface warship will stop ships from loading troops and that hostilities must take place. A sub can be ignored if desired….maybe my understanding is wrong?

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    @666

    Clearly, if the Germans attack the Soviet sub in SZ116 while the TTs are there, the TTs cannot move during the NCM. If there is no attack on the sub you may be right about escorting the TT elsewhere during the NCM for pick up and drop off. So, put the sub back in SZ 116.

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    @666

    Here’s R-2 with revised NCM:

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    @ArtofWar1947

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 2 infantry and 1 marine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 mech_infantry moved from Amur to Soviet Far East
                  Japanese take Soviet Far East from Russians
            1 armour moved from Siberia to Sakha
                  Japanese take Sakha from Russians
            1 armour moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            4 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 5 Sea Zone to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Inner Mongolia
                  Japanese take Inner Mongolia from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Shansi to Honan
                  Japanese take Honan from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
                  Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
                  Japanese take Hunan from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
                  Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to Buryatia
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Buryatia
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 4 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Buryatia, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in Buryatia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Buryatia
                Japanese win, taking Buryatia from Russians with 1 armour, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Marianas to 22 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to Fukien
            1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from Kwangsi to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Siam to 132 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 marine, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China
                  Japanese take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
            1 artillery moved from Shansi to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi
            1 aaGun moved from Amur to 5 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
            1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 20 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
            1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 2 carriers moved from 5 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Korea to 20 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to Fukien
            1 aaGun moved from Japan to Kyushu
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Buryatia to Southern Manchuria
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            2 carriers placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 marine placed in Japan
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Japanese regular : 0.50
    Russians regular : 0.67
    

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