TGC (CP) vs VF (Entente) -1914, oob, no bid

[VictoryFirst]

@the_good_captain
Game History

Round: 9

    Puchase Units - French
        French buy 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - French
        9 artilleries, 1 fighter and 73 infantry moved from Lorraine to Burgundy
        1 infantry moved from Picardy to Lorraine
        10 infantry moved from Picardy to Burgundy
        11 infantry moved from Paris to Picardy

    Combat Move - French

    Place Units - French
        9 infantry placed in Paris

    Turn Complete - French
        French collect 29 PUs; end with 31 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Game History

Round: 9

    Puchase Units - British
        British buy 4 artilleries, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Egypt to SZ 17
        3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from SZ 17 to SZ 19
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from SZ 19 to Smyrna
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from South West Africa to SZ 24
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 24 to SZ 23
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 23 to Togoland
        1 infantry moved from Nigeria to Togoland
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Portuguese East Africa to SZ 26
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 26 to SZ 27
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 27 to SZ 29
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 29 to Arabia
              British take Arabia from Ottomans
        6 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from India to Persia
        2 infantry moved from Wales to SZ 8
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 8 to SZ 14
        2 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 14
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 14 to SZ 17
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Tuscany

    Combat - British
        Battle in Togoland
            British attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Togoland, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Togoland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Togoland
            British win, taking Togoland from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - British

    Place Units - British
        1 transport placed in SZ 8
        4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0,50
British regular : 0,67

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[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst

Game History

Round: 9

    Puchase Units - Ottomans
        Ottomans buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Ottomans
        6 artilleries and 55 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Syrian Desert
        1 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Ankara
        3 infantry moved from Ankara to Constantinople

    Combat Move - Ottomans

    Place Units - Ottomans
        7 infantry placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - Ottomans
        Ottomans collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs[O9.tsvg](/forums/assets/uploads/files/1677979236855-o9.tsvg)

[The_Good_Captain]

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[VictoryFirst]

@the_good_captain
Game History

Round: 9

    Puchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 infantry moved from Venice to Piedmont
        6 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Venice to Tuscany
        5 infantry moved from Rome to Tuscany
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to SZ 19
        1 infantry moved from Smyrna to SZ 19
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 19 to SZ 17
        2 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Tuscany

    Combat Move - Italians

    Place Units - Italians
        5 infantry placed in Rome

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 16 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Game History

Round: 9

    Puchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 3 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1
        3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Smyrna to SZ 19
        3 artilleries, 1 battleship, 4 cruisers, 11 infantry and 7 transports moved from SZ 19 to SZ 17
        3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Tuscany
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 14
        1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from SZ 14 to SZ 17
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Tuscany
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco

    Combat Move - Americans

    Place Units - Americans
        2 transports placed in SZ 1
        3 infantry placed in United States of America

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 22 PUs; end with 24 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst

Game History

Round: 10

    Puchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 15 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        3 units repaired.
        2 infantry moved from Munich to Switzerland
        4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 tank moved from Munich to Alsace
        3 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr
        3 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel
        2 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Hanover to Munich
        9 artilleries, 2 fighters, 69 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Switzerland to Piedmont
        1 fighter moved from Switzerland to Piedmont
        2 fighters moved from Switzerland to Munich
        13 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover
        2 infantry moved from Alsace to Belgium
        1 infantry moved from Ruhr to Belgium
        2 infantry moved from Ruhr to Alsace

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Piedmont
            Germans attack with 9 artilleries, 3 fighters, 69 infantry and 3 tanks
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 9 artilleries, 3 fighters, 69 infantry and 3 tanks in Piedmont, round 2 : 33/84 hits, 32.50 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Piedmont, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Piedmont
            Germans win, taking Piedmont from Italians with 9 artilleries, 3 fighters, 69 infantry and 3 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Belgium
            Germans attack with 3 infantry
            French defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 2 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the French lost in Belgium
            Germans win, taking Belgium from French with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for French: 2 infantry

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Germans owned units to: tank = 1
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Germans owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - Germans
        15 infantry placed in Berlin

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 50 PUs; end with 52 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -1.00
Italians regular : -0.50
Germans regular : 1.50

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[VictoryFirst]

@the_good_captain
Game History

Round: 10

    Puchase Units - French
        French buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - French
        2 infantry moved from Burgundy to Marseilles
        1 infantry moved from Burgundy to Lorraine
        9 infantry moved from Picardy to Burgundy
        9 infantry moved from Paris to Burgundy

    Combat Move - French

    Place Units - French
        10 infantry placed in Paris

    Turn Complete - French
        French collect 27 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Game History

Round: 10

    Puchase Units - British
        British buy 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by French to SZ 7: 1 transport
            EDIT: Removing units owned by French from SZ 9: 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Wales to SZ 8
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 8 to SZ 14
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco
        2 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 14
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 14 to SZ 17
        1 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Tuscany
        1 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Tuscany
        12 artilleries, 1 fighter, 63 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Persia to Mesopotamia
              British take Mesopotamia from Ottomans
        1 fighter moved from India to Mesopotamia
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Smyrna to Ankara
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from India to SZ 29
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 29 to Mesopotamia
        3 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from India to Persia
        1 transport moved from SZ 19 to SZ 28
        1 artillery moved from Arabia to SZ 28
        1 artillery moved from SZ 28 to Egypt
        3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        1 transport moved from SZ 17 to SZ 14
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Togoland to SZ 23
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 23 to SZ 25
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 25 to Union of South Africa
              British take Union of South Africa from Germans
        1 transport moved from SZ 19 to SZ 17

    Combat - British
        Battle in Ankara
            British attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Ottomans defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Ankara, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Ottomans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ankara, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Ottomans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ankara
            British win, taking Ankara from Ottomans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Ottomans: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Yorkshire to Wales
        1 infantry moved from Scotland to Yorkshire

    Place Units - British
        6 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in India
        1 transport placed in SZ 8

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Ottomans regular : 0,50
British regular : 0,67

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[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst

Game History

Round: 10

    Puchase Units - Ottomans
        Ottomans buy 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Ottomans
        2 infantry moved from Constantinople to Smyrna
        8 artilleries and 62 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Ankara
        10 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara

    Combat - Ottomans
        Battle in Smyrna
            Ottomans attack with 2 infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Ottomans roll dice for 2 infantry in Smyrna, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smyrna, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
            Americans and Ottomans reach a stalemate
        Battle in Ankara
            Ottomans attack with 8 artilleries and 72 infantry
            British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Ottomans roll dice for 8 artilleries and 72 infantry in Ankara, round 2 : 26/80 hits, 29.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ankara, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Ottomans, 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ankara
            Ottomans win, taking Ankara from British with 8 artilleries and 70 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Ottomans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Combat Move - Ottomans

    Place Units - Ottomans
        1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - Ottomans
        Ottomans collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs

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[VictoryFirst]

@the_good_captain

Hi, I think I have to call this one too. The TUV and income might be pretty similar at the moment, but you have more abilities to threaten territories than I do. I have no chance to take out the Ottomans, and I’ll have to use all of the US resources to save Italy, while France has a hard time defending and taking back all territories Germany takes while preserving its strength. It might be a stalemate for the next amount of turns, but I think the CP will still win eventually. In any case, I will have no chance of winning.

I have to compliment you on two things:

1. The way you forced a revolution to take place in Russia
2. How delayed the reinforcement of US units by contesting the sea zone

You did an excellent job of bypassing the stack in Russia by just contesting it so that it cannot retake neighboring territories. I was unaware of that, but it also made me realize something. Defending Russia is a lot harder then because you need to have a balance between stacking your units in Moscow, but also keep a stack in reserve to take back territories adjacent to Moscow. At some point, this will be impossible as that reserve stack will get attacked by CP units.

Also, I didn’t know that the Ottomans have such great defensive capabilities. Even though I spent almost all of my British money in India, I wasn’t able to break through the defenses. With early US help I might’ve had more success, but you also cleverly delayed the US units from coming.

So all in all, now I am unsure what the best Entende strategy entails. Fully against Ottoman will not work I think. With the help of Austria-Hungary, it becomes very hard to crack the defenses. 100% Germany might be interesting, but I don’t immediately see how it can work out well. If the British spend little money in India, the Ottomans may become annoying. But otherwise, the Western front will not have enough reinforcements. And Germany has good defensive capabilities. A first instinct tells me that attacking Germany might work better because you pull strength away from the Russian front. But I am unsure.

What do you think? Did I do something wrong while attacking Ottoman Empire? Should I’ve defended Russia a bit more fiercely? I am interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks for the game, and I am looking forward to playing another.

[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst I have completed nearly 40 games of 1914 since we started our first game. I have come to understand the the Russian revolution rule is incredibly complex and there are many little tricks someone can implement to bend the game in their favor.

I will be releasing a video shortly on my channel that details all of the ways each side can take advantage of that particular optional rule. I’m not sure what you did was wrong in Russia. It took a relatively long time to remove the Russians from the game compared to others and I had to heavily damage one of my armies to pull that move.

When playing against a seasoned CP player, it can take 10-11 turns to break the Ottomans down. In that sense, you are on track as the Entente.

The area that hurt the Entente in this particular game was having the USA stopped by the CP navy for so many turns. Being delayed one turn is rough but more than one turn is going to be trouble. Also, as the Italian player and as the Entente in general, I spend quite a bit of energy to never lose Venice. I even send French troops down there until the American get into the war. If Venice falls to the CP, it can become very difficult for the Entente after Russia falls. The Entente have the economic advantage. The British can and will overwhelm the Ottomans eventually. This means the Entente just need to hold everywhere else (except Russia). The only area where you need to “win” (rather than hold ground) is with the British against the Ottomans. And you don’t really need to have this done until turns 11, 12, or 13.

This has been my experience across the nearly 40 games I’ve logged in the last six to eight months.

I also need to thank you again for bringing me the TripleA file for this game. Without that, nothing I have created on my channel about this game would exist. And thank you for these games so far. I have learned a lot in each of our games! I’m always ready to play with you whenever you are looking for an opponent!

[TheVeteran]

@victoryfirst you should check out TGC YT channel “Captain at war” and watch my game played out with him. i defeat him playing as the entente while playing with an India build restriction rule even. i dont initially gain much advantage against the ottomans and most of the effort is used to deny germany any ground in russia while also holding the AH forces back and not letting them break though venice (or push any further than switzerland) . effecient transport and management of the Entente navy is important.

[TheVeteran]

deny germany any ground in France **

[TheVeteran]

@victoryfirst not every entente win requires the entente to capture Constantinople. again see my latest game on YT with TGC.