pacifiersboard (X) vs Me1945 (L +23) BM (2022 playoff)

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Alright, the map attached. US still take Venezuela. Sz10 transport goes to sz89 instead of sz65.

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@me1945

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 factory_minor and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        2 infantry moved from Southern France to Spain
        1 fighter moved from Greece to Spain
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Gibraltar
        1 armour moved from Turkey to Northwest Persia
              Italians take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
        1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Turkey
        2 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Caucasus
        1 artillery moved from Turkey to 100 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Bessarabia
        1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Turkey to 100 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 100 Sea Zone to Bessarabia
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to Spain
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia

    Combat - Italians
        Strategic bombing raid in Gibraltar
                British roll AA dice in Gibraltar : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Gibraltar rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: harbour
            Bombing raid in Gibraltar causes 6 damage total. 
        Battle in Caucasus
        Battle in Spain
            Italians attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Spain, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Spain, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Spain
            Italians win, taking Caucasus from Russians, taking Spain from Americans with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Bessarabia
            Italians attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 marine
            Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Bessarabia, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Bessarabia
            Italians win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 aaGun moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 fighter moved from Spain to Southern France
        2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to France
        1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        1 factory_minor placed in Turkey
        1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
        3 infantry placed in Southern France
        3 infantry placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs
        Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0,33
Italians regular : 2,33
British AA : -0,17
Russians regular : 0,33

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@me1945

Game History

Round: 5

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 8 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
              Germans take Belarus from Russians
        3 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine
        3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Greece to Iraq
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Iraq
        1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Iraq
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
              Germans take Ukraine from Russians

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Iraq
            Germans attack with 4 armour and 5 mech_infantrys
            British defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 4 armour and 5 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 2,83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq
            Germans win, taking Iraq from British with 4 armour and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
        Battle in Western Ukraine
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 5 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
            Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Turkey
        3 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        1 artillery moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Norway to Sweden
        1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Poland
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Greece
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Eastern Poland

    Place Units - Germans
        1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 114 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Germany
        2 infantry placed in Western Germany
        2 infantry placed in Germany
        3 infantry placed in Romania

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 59 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -1,00
Germans regular : -1,17
British regular : 0,33

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@me1945

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 2 factory_minors, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
        2 fighters moved from 80 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
        1 fighter moved from 58 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 58 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 58 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
        5 infantry moved from Burma to India
        1 armour moved from Burma to Shan State
              Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific
        1 armour moved from Shan State to Yunnan
        1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
        1 artillery moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Java
        1 fighter moved from Siam to Java
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to India
        2 bombers moved from Siam to India
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to India
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Jehol to Central Mongolia
              Japanese take Buyant-Uhaa from Russians
              Japanese take Central Mongolia from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei
        1 infantry moved from Hunan to Anhwe
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Suiyuyan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Hopei
        1 mech_infantry moved from French Indo China to Hunan
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to 19 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to 20 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Guam to 21 Sea Zone
        1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 17 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 35 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 19 Sea Zone to Japan
        1 fighter moved from 19 Sea Zone to Philippines
        2 infantry and 2 marines moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Hunan to 35 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Borneo
        Battle in Celebes
        Battle in 79 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the British lost in 79 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Celebes from Dutch with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for British: 1 transport
        Battle in 72 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 72 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
        Battle in 17 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 17 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in Hopei
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Hopei, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei
            Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
        Battle in India
            Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 armour and 3 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in India, round 2 : 2/11 hits, 4,50 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in India, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in India
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in India, round 3 : 4/10 hits, 4,33 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in India, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 infantry owned by the British and 1 armour owned by the British lost in India
            Japanese captures 9PUs while taking UK_Pacific capital
            Japanese converts factory_major into different units
            Japanese win, taking India from UK_Pacific with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 armour and 3 infantry
        Battle in Trans-Jordan
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Trans-Jordan
            Japanese win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
        Battle in Philippines
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 marines
            Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Philippines, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 marines in Philippines, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines
            Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 marines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
        Battle in Suiyuyan
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan
            Japanese win, taking Suiyuyan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Java
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in Java, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
            Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
        triggerUKPacificDestroyPUsJapanese: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to UK_Pacific

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        2 fighters moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 79 Sea Zone to Iraq
        1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Turkey
        1 fighter moved from 72 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 17 Sea Zone to Japan
        1 aaGun moved from Manchuria to Jehol
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hopei to Jehol
        2 bombers moved from India to French Indo China
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Burma
        1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Burma
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan

    Place Units - Japanese
        2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Japan
        1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China
        1 factory_minor placed in Malaya

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,2,5,5,2,2,1
        Japanese collect 63 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 72 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
        Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0,33
Americans regular : 0,33
Japanese regular : -0,67
ANZAC regular : -0,33
UK_Pacific regular : -0,33
British regular : 0,33

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SZ6: scramble /submerge?

[Me1945]

I assume, if no/no or US win in sz6, US takes Korea. Let me know if that is wrong.

[pacifiersboard]

@me1945

I agree and so it happens

[Me1945]

Thank you. Still need your scramble /submerge decision.

[pacifiersboard]

@me1945

submerge and no scramble, so no fight

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SZ110: UK units in 2 US transports

[gamerman01]

Hi guys, I’ve really enjoyed checking out your game from G1 tonight - finally looking at a couple playoff games for the first time.

I do have one comment as I’ve just finished Russia 4 -
It looks like the engine awarded +3 for the Russian NO of holding an Axis territory in Europe, but Scandinavia (Finland, here) doesn’t count.

As per the game notes it has to be in “mainland” Europe. Mainly pointing it out for your future reference, but probably a correction should be made to Russia 5 to reduce the purchase by 3. Oh, and I see 6 was awarded at the end of Russia 5 (Finland and Norway) so 6 IPC’s should be deducted from Russia’s current bank. I guess you’ll have to do that every turn going forward if Russia controls Finland or Norway. Programming is apparently wrong.

[gamerman01]

You can resolve it in a different way if you both agree, since moves have passed and decisions have been made based on the wrong Russia money.

Just offering up what seems to be the most obvious and logical choice.

[gamerman01]

I think 2 neutral infantry need to be edited back to Chile

[gamerman01]

From J5 -
SBR is first, then all amphibious assaults are to be rolled before any other battles. Again, future reference. Sometimes it matters. Sometimes it matters a lot. Somebody had to point it out to me years ago (JDOW)

[gamerman01]

(Philippines, Trans-Jordan, Java) should have been first.
I don’t think there are many players who realize this is a rule, and many don’t understand the importance. But I’m sure you will - - and pass it on :fist:

[farmboy]

Apologies for the intrusion here, but I just saw @gamerman01 's post. Are you sure about Finland (and I presume Norway)? I’ve always assumed they counted in BM and I think technically they are considered part of the European mainland in the real world.

And yes, this game looks interesting. I’ve only played one game with PB and 2 recent games with ME1945, but my sense is that you two are the most creative players in league in that you try non standard strategies with axis. Looks to me though that this time PB is paying for it. That is one powerful Red Army.

[gamerman01]

Farmboy, I thank you for asking that right away.

I sorted through the pages of the balanced mod rules thread, and on June 13, 2016 I asked the question about Scandinavia because the balanced mod makers had inserted “mainland Europe” into the game notes. https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/27451/g40-balance-mod-rules-and-download/502?page=21

Regularkid posted a link to back up their definition of including Scandinavia, which is broken now.
I look it up on wikipedia now, and it clearly does include Scandinavia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Europe
(Link says continental Europe, but that is the same as “mainland” Europe it says in the same article)

They didn’t change the description in the game notes, so 6 1/2 years later I’m confused again. I thought the reason for adding that parenthetical was to distinguish it from the original 2nd edition rules, but in fact they are the same, as you pointed out. So the programming is correct - if Finland and Norway weren’t supposed to be included, now I realize they surely would have edited the programming long ago.