@nikola1975 said in PTV L25 PlayOff: Surfer (Allies) vs Nikola1975 (Axis +9):
@surfer Yes :) Let’s see how you react.
Ok. Let’s try this. Scramble orders?
L22 playoff game Pejon_88 (X) vs. Farmboy (A+17), BM3/4
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Sometimes the combat hit diff isn’t included in the game summary. Here goes:
Round: 8 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from France to Southern France 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yugoslavia to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Archangel 1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone Combat - Germans British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 2 submarines, 3 tactical_bombers and 1 transport British defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 1 submarine; French defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 3 tactical_bombers and 1 transport in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/10 hits, 5,50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British and 2 carriers owned by the British British roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 7 fighters and 1 transport in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/11 hits, 6,33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 carrier owned by the Germans 1 submarine owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the Germans, 1 destroyer owned by the British, 2 submarines owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone 3 fighters owned by the Germans and 3 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans retreated 1 battleship owned by the Germans, 1 carrier owned by the Germans, 1 transport owned by the Germans and 1 cruiser owned by the Germans retreated to 112 Sea Zone British win with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 7 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 submarines Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Americans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Southern France Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Southern France Germans win, taking Southern France from Americans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Archangel Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Archangel, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom 1 fighter owned by the French and 3 fighters owned by the British forced to land in United Kingdom Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun, 11 armour, 5 artilleries, 16 infantry and 22 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Samara 2 aaGuns and 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Volgograd 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Samara 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Volgograd 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Archangel to Novgorod 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod 1 artillery moved from Belarus to Novgorod 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 marine moved from Holland Belgium to France 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France 3 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Greece 2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Greece 7 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania 3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia 2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Ukraine 3 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania Place Units - Germans 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Volgograd 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 1 fighter placed in France Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,4 Germans collect 53 PUs; end with 54 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 74 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 1,33 Russians regular : 0,33 Germans regular : -1,33 British regular : -0,67 -
@pejon_88 check with gamerman but I assume you could actually.
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@gamerman01 dear friend, do you know if it’s an illegal move to strafe a transport during combat move per above?
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Yes, transports can attack with the fleet and retreat with the fleet (to an eligible retreat zone)
What you can’t do is attack a fleet with only transports/aircraft carriers and then retreat. Kreighund answered my question to that a long time ago, saying there has to be one unit with a combat value. Shoot! Imagine the possibilities!
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Also, that transport could have retreated (to 112) even if all other attacking units were destroyed.
I can cite chapter and verse if necessary, but won’t bother if you don’t need me to
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@gamerman01 no we should all be good as there wasn’t really a dispute. Pejon was hoping he could do it but didn’t think the rules allowed it. I was pretty sure the rules did allow it, but was hoping he couldn’t. :)
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@pejon_88 And yeah, our naval dice were quite well matched (I was quite afraid in forcing you to attack that I might end up having terrible dice and paying for it.). But I had great land dice which at least makes the transport sacrifice worth it.
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Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 fighter and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 2 infantry moved from Smolensk to Archangel 1 fighter moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 fighter moved from Russia to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Belarus 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk Combat - Russians Battle in Bryansk Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Bryansk Russians win, taking Bryansk from Italians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in Archangel Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Belarus Russians attack with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Russia 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Russia 1 fighter moved from Archangel to Russia 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 17 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Smolensk to Russia 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone Place Units - Russians 1 fighter and 5 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 23 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 25 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 27 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : -1.00 Russians regular : 2.17 -
@farmboy Haha well put!
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Yes I think this section, page 32 in the EU rulebook, explains it:
Unit Characteristics
No Combat Value: Even though a transport can attack
or defend, either alone or with other units, it has a
combat value of 0. This means that a transport can’t fire
in the attacking units’ or the defending units’ fire steps.
Transports may not attack without being accompanied
by at least 1 unit with an attack value, unless they are
conducting an amphibious assault from a friendly sea
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@farmboy Yeah even battles always have that inherent risk. Yup!
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Intercept in India? One fig + 2 bombers. You have one fig.
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@pejon_88 no intercept
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@farmboy I took a wrong mech to attack Shensi from what I meant. No difference in the battles. Hope that’s ok?
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@pejon_88 all good
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@farmboy Thanks. You’ll see it in the edit during NCM. Btw your defense dice are killing me…
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 fighters, 6 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Shantung to 19 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam 3 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 armour moved from Sikang to Shensi 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi 1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi 1 fighter moved from Shantung to 21 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Philippines to India 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to India 2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to Java 2 fighters moved from French Indo China to Java 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to Guam 1 fighter moved from Philippines to Guam 2 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Shensi 1 fighter moved from Philippines to Java Combat - Japanese Air Battle in India Japanese attacks with 3 units heading to India Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets Strategic bombing raid in India 1 bomber killed by AA Bombing raid in India rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in India causes 6 damage total. Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 transports ANZAC defend with 1 transport Japanese win with 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in 21 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 transports Americans defend with 1 transport Japanese win with 1 fighter and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in Java Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers ANZAC defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Guam Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 airfield and 2 infantry Japanese win, taking Guam from Americans with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Battle in Shensi Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 3 infantry Japanese win, taking Shensi from Chinese with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry Cleaning up after air battles Non Combat Move - Japanese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from India to Burma EDIT: 1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Sikang 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 1 mech_infantry moved from Shantung to Hunan 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Anhwe 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 21 Sea Zone to Paulau Island 1 fighter moved from Philippines to Paulau Island 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Paulau Island 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Guam to 21 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 2 carriers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Japan 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Korea 3 infantry placed in Shantung 3 mech_infantrys placed in French Indo China Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 59 PUs; end with 59 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs -
@pejon_88 yeah, that has been a plus. In both your game and in my game with @aequitas-et-veritas, my 2 units in Guam both scored 2 for 2 at exactly the same time (2:06 PM in my case).
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It still hurts!
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@aequitas-et-veritas sorry! :)
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@farmboy What a coincidence!
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