22 PtV playoff Max v 666 (axis +12)

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@max334

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 infantry and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Politics - Japanese
        Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 armour moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Fukien to Kiangsi
              Japanese take Kiangsi from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
              Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
              Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi
        1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Shansi
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Manchuria to Shansi

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in French Indo China
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking French Indo China from French, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
        Battle in Shansi
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shansi, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shansi
            Japanese win, taking Shansi from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Marshall Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 marine moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands
        1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 7 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 7 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Fukien to 21 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Formosa to 21 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Kyushu to 20 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 20 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 fighter moved from Korea to 37 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Formosa to 37 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 21 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu
        2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Kwangsi
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shansi to Kiangsu
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria
        3 infantry moved from Korea to Southern Manchuria
        1 infantry moved from Hokkaido to Japan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Marshall Islands
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Paulau

    Place Units - Japanese
        4 transports placed in 7 Sea Zone
        1 infantry placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -1.67
Japanese regular : 4.67

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Scramble?
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@max334 said in 22 PtV playoff Max v 666 (axis +12):

Scramble?
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wow, I had great dice in YUN, that was quite unlucky for you, sorry about that.

Full scramble please

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I might have to give this game to you. UK rolled very poorly. I’m ok with occasional bad rolls as its part of the game. But this being round 1 and happening in both theaters I am very discouraged.
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@max334 said in 22 PtV playoff Max v 666 (axis +12):

I might have to give this game to you. UK rolled very poorly. I’m ok with occasional bad rolls as its part of the game. But this being round 1 and happening in both theaters I am very discouraged.
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without looking at the dice or map I assume you are speaking of Taranto, the UK attack on the ITA fleet. When I looked at the scramble option it showed the Brits at 38% chance of victory, if memory serves. I think you needed to bring another fighter and the bomber with you. I’ll take a closer look later today and do the ITA turn. If you decide to carry on there is hope. I typically make 1 or 2 big blunders and surely some bad dice will come my way too.

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@max334 yeah, that was pretty brutal.

How about you reroll the UK T1 attack and we go from there…FYI, I still think the Taranto naval battle is a bit in question for the brits unless they get lucky.

[max334]

@666 Much obliged. And you are right about being short 2 planes for the Taranto battle. One was intentional, that was the bomber going to Canada to deal with the subs. The other was not, it was the 2nd London ftr. He should have been included in the battle and with your permission I would like to add him to the fight.

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@max334 how’s this sound…

Option 1, re-roll the battles as originally attempted without consequence.

Option 2, change the combat movement (adding a fgt to taranto) and re-roll the battles, while agreeing to allow me the same option, one time, and at a point of my choosing, later in the game.

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@666 Option 2 actually sounds ok. I’ve been thinking about making a house rule along those lines, but not sure how to exactly enact it or what the specifics would be. But basically if you get diced really baddly you get a re-roll. In fact, a few years ago I would only play low luck games.
I’ll be able to play this evening

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cant seem to find the auto save file. The only auto saves I am finding is for my other game, but I cant find it for our game. Maybe its in a different location

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@max334 said in 22 PtV playoff Max v 666 (axis +12):

@666 Option 2 actually sounds ok. I’ve been thinking about making a house rule along those lines, but not sure how to exactly enact it or what the specifics would be. But basically if you get diced really baddly you get a re-roll. In fact, a few years ago I would only play low luck games.
I’ll be able to play this evening

There was a player called Wheatbeer, he was a frequent player years ago, he had a house rule which allowed for rerolls for extreme dicing, we played a few games together with his house rules. It didn’t really catch on in the League. I think the best players feel it isn’t needed and I find they take less risky battles, at least it seems this way to me. Anyways, ok. lets continue.

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@max334 said in 22 PtV playoff Max v 666 (axis +12):

cant seem to find the auto save file. The only auto saves I am finding is for my other game, but I cant find it for our game. Maybe its in a different location

when this has happened to me I simply start over. Redo the usa turn with the same purchase and movements, this should be easy.

Do the same for china and roll the battle, editing the outcome to match what actually occurred.

And then redo the UK, I think that is the easiest and cleanest way to handle this.

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@max334 well that is a big difference, should I ask that you do this turn again? LOL

[max334]

@666 maybe thats part of Option 2 😂

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@max334

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
        1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland
              Italians take British Somaliland from British
        1 armour moved from Albania to Bulgaria
        1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Greece
        2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Greece
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Greece
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry
            Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser in Greece, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 3 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Greece
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 bomber in Greece, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Greece
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 bomber in Greece, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Greece, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
            Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
        Battle in Yugoslavia
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Neutral_Allies defend with 2 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 2 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Yugoslavia
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 4 : 3/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
            Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Alexandria
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Alexandria
            Italians win, taking Alexandria from British with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        1 fighter placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -0.50
Neutral_Allies regular : 1.67
British regular : 0.67

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Game History

Round: 2

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 armour, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
        Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Established Switch: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans

    Politics - Germans
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
        Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
              Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
              Germans take Baltic States from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
              Germans take Karelia from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
              Germans take Vyborg from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
              Germans take Bessarabia from Russians

    Combat - Germans

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
        3 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Baltic States
        6 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
        5 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
        2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
        2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
        1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
        5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Germany
        1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany
        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
        1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece

    Place Units - Germans
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 116 Sea Zone
        1 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        2 fighters placed in Western Germany
        3 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 128 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,1
        Germans collect 41 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 41 PUs
        Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 44 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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@max334, I’m confused Max. Why wouldn’t my german fighters scramble when the Russian ss attacked? I would have scrambled 3 fighters. This was one of the purposes of the German DD that I bought. Was this an oversight?