crockett36 l vs The Good Captain x

[crockett36]

Whatever is good.

[The_Good_Captain]

@crockett36 thanks - still prefer the first time I rolled on the active board given there was no change in strategy. I would say that regardless of dice results for either side.

in short, you’re clear to use the file just above your last post, “G9hotroll”

[crockett36]

12.3.22.tsvg

[The_Good_Captain]

@crockett36

Game History

Round: 9

    Research Technology - Japanese
        Japanese spend 20 on tech rolls
            Japanese roll 4,3,6,1 and gets 1 hit
        Japanese discover Heavy Bomber

    Activate Technology - Japanese
        Japanese activating Heavy Bomber

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Australia to North Australia Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from North Australia Sea Zone to East Indies Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from East Indies Sea Zone to East Indies
              Japanese take East Indies from British
        1 battleship moved from North Australia Sea Zone to East Indies Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to French Indo China
              Japanese take French Indo China from British
        1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to French Indo China
        2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R.
        2 fighters moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R.
        3 bombers moved from Manchuria to Russia

    Combat - Japanese
        Strategic bombing raid in Russia
                Russians roll AA dice in Russia : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 6,3,2,1,4,4,1,4,3 and costs: 28 PUs.
            Bombing raid costs 28 PUs
        Battle in Yakut S.S.R.
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Yakut S.S.R.
            Japanese win, taking Yakut S.S.R. from Russians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        Russians lost 0 PUs to rocket attack by Japanese
            Rockets  roll: 1
        1 bomber moved from Russia to Germany
        2 bombers moved from Russia to Manchuria
        1 fighter moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Manchuria
        1 battleship, 1 carrier and 4 submarines moved from North Pacific Sea Zone to Philippines Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Manchuria

    Place Units - Japanese
        2 infantry placed in Manchuria

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 1.67
Russians regular : -0.67
Russians AA : -0.50

J9.tsvg

[crockett36]

Hey, so fun turn for me. Had a computer glitch. Take a look at the Russian turn. No purchase. Yet the income didn’t double. What do you think happened?

[crockett36]

US9ussr10.tsvg

[The_Good_Captain]

@crockett36 I dont believe there is any glitch - the Japanese rockets and heavy bombers eliminated the Russian income.

G10.tsvg

[The_Good_Captain]

@crockett36 I’m also going to have to call ‘foul’ on the submarine spam. The amount of subs is limited by the number of pieces in the game (not chips). Since only six sub groups are allowed on the board at any one time, you’ll have to combine one of those subs with another.

Reference: page 7, center column under “plastic chips”.

The official Q&A also back this up:

“The number of playing pieces is a limit on how many forces can be in play. No one, for example, can have more than three bomber forces, or more than two carrier groups. The only exception to this absolute limit is chips.”

[crockett36]

@the_good_captain oh! didn’t see that. you did tech! wow.

[crockett36]

12.6.22629.tsvg

[The_Good_Captain]

@crockett36

Game History

Round: 10

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 6 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 battleship, 1 carrier and 4 submarines moved from Philippines Sea Zone to East Indies Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R.
        2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R.
        1 bomber moved from Manchuria to North Pacific Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Manchuria to India
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Caucasus
        1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Russia

    Combat - Japanese
        Strategic bombing raid in India
            Bombing raid in India rolls: 6,2,5 and costs: 13 PUs.
            Bombing raid costs 13 PUs
        Battle in Russia
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber
            British defend with 1 bomber; Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 1 factory
                Russians roll AA dice in Russia : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber in Russia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 bomber in Russia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the British lost in Russia
            Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
            Casualties for British: 1 bomber
        Battle in North Pacific Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber
            Americans defend with 2 submarines
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber in North Pacific Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                2 submarines owned by the Americans lost in North Pacific Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
            Casualties for Americans: 2 submarines
        Battle in East Indies Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 4 submarines
            Americans defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese roll dice for 4 submarines in East Indies Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in East Indies Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 4 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
        Battle in Yakut S.S.R.
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 armour
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Yakut S.S.R.
            Japanese win, taking Yakut S.S.R. from Russians with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 armour

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        Russians lost 6 PUs to rocket attack by Japanese
            Rockets  roll: 6
        1 bomber moved from Russia to East Europe
        1 bomber moved from India to Manchuria
        1 bomber moved from North Pacific Sea Zone to Manchuria
        1 infantry moved from Manchuria to China
        1 fighter moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Manchuria
        1 fighter moved from Yakut S.S.R. to China

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Manchuria
        1 bomber placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 32 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0.67
Russians regular : 0.50
Russians AA : -0.17

J10.tsvg in the current board condition, throwing for tech as Japan is part of my overall strategy. I basically don’t change what I do as the Axis from game to game. I have a video on my YouTube channel where I lay this all out if you were interested (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnJReTMIlU8).

In short, Germany “waltz’s” on the East Front (as you saw) while Japan expands and purchases a bomber or two when convenient. This serves the dual purpose of both providing a stream of bombers to hit the Russian complex ‘ad nauseum’ while at the same time leaving the door open for the end game “hail mary” if things start to turn sour.

The hail mary is heavy bombers (or the Atom bomb as your friend, Mr. Harris originally envisioned it). And this is why I feel very confident that if any version of axis and allies survives the test of time, it will be the Milton Bradley, 2nd Edition.

It is the only version that allows the player who has started to lose the game a path to victory, however narrow. Even if it doesn’t work out, the adrenaline rush and nervousness around the board is worth it for its own sake. If it does work out (as in this case) the game continues. In my opinion, this is genius.

I love most versions of axis and allies, but no other version comes close to what this version can do in this regards. The original heavy bombers and tech rules were like the olive in a martini. Perfection.

I regret what technology rules have evolved into.

[The_Good_Captain]

@crockett36 that’s not to denigrate what you and the other axis and allies teams did. I have extraordinarily high respect for any name in the credits of any game branded ‘axis and allies’. They’re exceptional games, the whole lot. I say this as someone who has stacked a lot of time over many war board games.

[crockett36]

12.6.2210.13.tsvg

[The_Good_Captain]

@crockett36

Game History

Round: 11

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        15 infantry moved from Germany to West Europe
        1 armour moved from East Europe to West Europe
        1 bomber moved from Germany to West Europe
        3 fighters moved from East Europe to West Europe
        1 infantry moved from Germany to West Europe

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in West Europe
            Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 16 infantry
            British defend with 9 infantry; Americans defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 16 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 5/21 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 11 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 6/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                6 infantry owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 3 infantry owned by the British lost in West Europe
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 10 infantry in West Europe, round 3 : 2/15 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 6 infantry in West Europe, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in West Europe
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 9 infantry in West Europe, round 4 : 3/14 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 4 infantry in West Europe, round 4 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the British lost in West Europe
            3 fighters owned by the Germans and 1 bomber owned by the Germans retreated
            6 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Germany
            British win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 10 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for British: 8 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        3 fighters moved from West Europe to East Europe
        1 bomber moved from West Europe to East Europe
        2 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe

    Place Units - Germans
        3 infantry placed in South Europe
        7 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -3.83
British regular : 3.00

G11.tsvg

[crockett36]

Well, the first tech dice have been rolled for the Allies. We missed. Perhaps soon, we will be dropping A bombs on Berlin or Tokyo. This is a lot more fun than I anticipated. For some reason I thought you didn’t like tech. I’ve never had a martini.

[crockett36]

@crockett36 I like the sub rules. So how many attempts did it take for you to get heavy bombers? How many tech do you have?

[crockett36]

@crockett36 found it. So how much money? Just gauging the luck differential.

[The_Good_Captain]

@crockett36 the land battles have been atrocious for the axis and …land is where the IPC are so, I still think this is an Allied win but am glad that this is as interesting as it has been for sure. Really enjoy it. To answer your question, everything can be found in the history tab. I’m not exactly sure EXACTLY what you mean by “how much money”, but I think Japan threw seven or eight dice over two turns and made two breakthroughs.

I don’t like tech dice in any version but this one (but in almost every other version its optional, here it is not). I haven’t had a martini either, I just heard the expression ;)

[crockett36]

@the_good_captain LOL! Wow. seven or 8. good to hear. I always assume I’m getting screwed by the dice EXCEPT for once in a blue moon.

Don’t you think the Anniversary edition tech token system (theoretically a laboratory) is better. The fact that it is optional is an absurdity. And the fact people insist on not playing with it tells me they are engineers or accountants. They don’t want anything to mess up their calculations. That’s why I do full frontal infantry assaults. Yes, I know the odds, but 20 percent of the time you are going to lose badly or win big.

[crockett36]

I am learning and relearning sooooo much. I really am trying to plum the depth of any kJF strategy. The thing I hate about tripleA is the fact that you miss the drama of the enemy turn. If you are ever doing a turn and want to call me, feel free. I am available as a UPS driver with a good headset. And even at night. It adds quite a bit of fun to game especially for the big battles or the atomic bomb runs.