Game 2 - L22 PTV Art of War (Ax+15) v 666 (Al)


  • @ArtofWar1947 need to give UK a thought. That extra G transport poses a few issues.

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  • @666

    I understand; no rush.



  • @666

    Scramble all 3 fighters.


  • @ArtofWar1947

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 carriers and 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 28 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 destroyer moved from 27 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 28 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Davao to Wake Island
            1 infantry moved from Manilla to Davao
            1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 11 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer placed in 104 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 58 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter and 5 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 5 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Tsinghai
            2 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Tsinghai
            3 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai
            2 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Tsinghai
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Tsinghai
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 14 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Scotland to 109 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 98 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Italians scrambles 3 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
                Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 fighter in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 98 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 fighter; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 3 fighters and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the Italians and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 fighters and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the Italians, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 2 fighters owned by the Italians, 1 battleship owned by the Italians and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                British win, taking 99 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 29
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier and 2 fighters
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
            Battle in 109 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 109 Sea Zone
                British win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to New Brunswick Nova Scotia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 artillery moved from Egypt to 100 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 82 Sea Zone to Southern Persia
                  British take Southern Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 infantry moved from Western India to Baluchistan
            1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern India to Tanganyika Territory
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
            1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 40 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Malaya to 38 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                  UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch
            1 battleship moved from 132 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
            1 fighter moved from Burma to Eastern India
            1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma
    
        Place Units - British
            1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 30 PUs; end with 31 PUs
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 34 PUs
            Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 transport placed in 40 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 marine placed in Eastern India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs
            Units Change Ownership
                Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 2 infantry and 1 marine
                Some Units in 40 Sea Zone change ownership: 1 transport
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0.67
    Italians regular : -1.17
    Japanese regular : 1.33
    Germans regular : -0.17
    British regular : 0.17
    

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  • @666

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    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
                Italians win, taking 99 Sea Zone from British with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Albania
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Albania
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Ethiopia
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : 0.33
    British regular : 0.17
    


  • @666

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    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 marines and 10 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
            Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Established Switch: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans
    
        Politics - Germans
            Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 infantry moved from Norway to 115 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Scotland
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Scotland
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Fleet Scuddle: has removed 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer owned by Neutral_Axis in 95 Sea Zone
            Trigger Germany Occupies Algeria Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Algeria
            Trigger Germany Syria France Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Syria
            Trigger Germany Occupies Tunisia Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Tunisia
            Trigger Germany Occupies French West Africa Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in French West Africa
            Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Army Disband: has removed 1 artillery and 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France
            Trigger Germany Occupies Morocco Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Morocco
            1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
                  Germans take Southern France from Neutral_Axis
            1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Scotland
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 armour moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            5 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Germany
            5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            3 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Germany
            2 armour, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary
    
        Place Units - Germans
            2 marines placed in Western Germany
            10 transports placed in 116 Sea Zone
            Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Army Disband Facilities: has removed 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France
            Trigger Germany Occupies Southern France Facilities: Germans has 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour placed in Southern France
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs
            Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 49 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :


  • @ArtofWar1947 …Sealion….bold


  • @666

    Got real tired of all the UK fighters piling up in the last game. :)


  • @ArtofWar1947 Happy Thanksgiving


  • @666

    Thanks. Best to you and yours.



  • @666

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    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
            2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
                  Japanese take Hunan from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
                  Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Szechwan
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan
                Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Fukien to 21 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Formosa to 21 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Paulau
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Siam
            1 bomber moved from Yunnan to Siam
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Kweichow
            1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow
            1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 132 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Shansi to Kiangsi
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Marshall Islands to Caroline Islands
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kyushu to 7 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 7 Sea Zone
            1 marine placed in Japan
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 46 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0.00
    Japanese regular : 1.17
    

  • @ArtofWar1947 just checking…Airbases can scramble to sea zones where there are only transports right?


  • @666
    That is my understanding. It is inconsistent with the scramble rule for CVs, but whos says the game rules have to be logical.


  • @artofwar1947

    “Air units can be scrambled to help friendly units in adjacent sea zones.” (Would have put the CA in SZ 116 otherwise.)


  • @artofwar1947

    In any case, it appears that the UK fighters do not have the range and landing on a built CV when there is no other landing area available is not allowed by the PTV rules.


  • @artofwar1947 said in Game 2 - L22 PTV Art of War (Ax+15) v 666 (Al):

    @artofwar1947

    In any case, it appears that the UK fighters do not have the range and landing on a built CV when there is no other landing area available is not allowed by the PTV rules.

    I agree with the AB scrambling into a sz that only has transports. I remember that being answered before. I just wish it was notated somewhere. And I was thinking about using the french Fgt, landing on a UK CV.


  • @666

    Clever, which is why I am glad the rule implies to help ANY friendly unit.

    I inquired once about about scrambling fighters to stop a UK landing from a US TT. My vague recollection is that the German fighters could not sink the US TT because it was not the US CM. I cannot recall if it prevented the amphibious assault. I believe it was a game against Trulpen last year.

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