L21 playoff OOB jkeller(X) vs trulpen (L+43)

[trulpen]

Looked closer at the ME and changed some positioning there.

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[jkeller]

Yea this map definitely has a lot of tricks to watch out for that I’m not used to playing revised so long

[trulpen]

That specific double attack is a particularly evil trick. I’ve sucked it up more times than I would like to admit.

[jkeller]

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[trulpen]

Franz16 L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB.tsvg

Game History

Round: 16

   Purchase Units - ANZAC

       ANZAC buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 



   Combat Move - ANZAC

       1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone

       2 fighters moved from Queensland to 45 Sea Zone

       1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone

       2 infantry moved from South Australia to 61 Sea Zone

       2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

       2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java



   Combat - ANZAC

       Battle in Java

       Battle in 45 Sea Zone

           ANZAC attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine

           Japanese defend with 1 destroyer

               ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits

               ANZAC roll dice for 2 fighters in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits

               Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits

               1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 45 Sea Zone

           ANZAC win, taking Java from Japanese with 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8

           Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer



   Non Combat Move - ANZAC

       1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

       1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

       1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

       1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone

       1 fighter moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia

       4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 80 Sea Zone to Northwest Persia

       2 fighters moved from 45 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

       3 fighters moved from Queensland to Hawaiian Islands

       1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland

       1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland



   Place Units - ANZAC

       1 fighter placed in New South Wales



   Turn Complete - ANZAC

       ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs

       Turning on Edit Mode

       EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Queensland: 2 infantry

       EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to South Australia: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

       EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Queensland: 1 artillery

       EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode



   Combat Move - French



   Non Combat Move - French

       1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo



   Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0,33

ANZAC regular : -0,33

[jkeller]

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[jkeller]

@jkeller Game History

Round: 17

    Research Technology - Germans

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter moved from France to 112 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 91 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Southern France to 92 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern France to 92 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from Finland to Norway
        2 fighters moved from France to Norway
        2 bombers moved from Southern Italy to Norway
        4 fighters moved from Southern France to 113 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern France to 113 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Turkey to Iraq
        1 fighter moved from Turkey to Iraq
        1 armour moved from Egypt to Tobruk
              Germans take Alexandria from British
              Italians take Tobruk from Russians
        2 armour moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        5 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 artillery moved from Belarus to Archangel
        2 infantry moved from Belarus to Archangel

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 112 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 fighter
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 112 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in Norway
            Germans attack with 3 bombers and 5 fighters
            Americans defend with 2 bombers, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 bombers and 5 fighters in Norway, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 4.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 2 bombers owned by the Americans lost in Norway
            Germans win with 3 bombers and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Americans: 2 bombers and 2 infantry
        Battle in 91 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 bomber
            Americans defend with 1 submarine and 4 transports
            1 submarine owned by the Americans submerged
                4 transports owned by the Americans lost in 91 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
            Casualties for Americans: 4 transports
        Battle in 92 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in 92 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in 113 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 fighter and 2 transports; Americans defend with 1 carrier
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 2 transports in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 1 carrier owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier
            Casualties for British: 1 fighter and 2 transports
        Battle in Archangel
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
            Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Iraq
            Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys
            British defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Iraq
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Iraq, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Iraq, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Iraq, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Iraq, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq
            Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -5
            Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Trans-Jordan
            Germans attack with 2 armour and 5 mech_infantrys
            British defend with 1 airfield and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 5 mech_infantrys in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Trans-Jordan
            Germans win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 2 armour and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Tobruk: 1 armour
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Tobruk from Italians to Russians
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 mech_infantry moved from Vologda to Belarus
        1 mech_infantry moved from Urals to Smolensk
        3 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
        1 fighter moved from Iraq to Caucasus
        4 armour moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        5 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        5 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 aaGun, 4 armour and 18 mech_infantrys moved from Turkey to Caucasus
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern France
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern France
        1 bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        4 fighters moved from Norway to Western Germany
        3 bombers moved from Norway to Western Germany
        1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        4 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Western Germany
        2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Yugoslavia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
        6 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
        1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Rostov
        1 aaGun moved from Volgograd to Rostov
        1 aaGun moved from Volgograd to Rostov
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to France
        1 aaGun moved from France to Southern France
        1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 6
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1,4,4,4,1,2,5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3
        Germans collect 60 PUs (6 lost to blockades); end with 60 PUs
        Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 80 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.67
Russians regular : -0.33
Germans regular : 2.17
British regular : 0.67

[trulpen]

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[jkeller]

Game History

Round: 17

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Philippines to 45 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar
              Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Timguska
              Japanese take Timguska from Russians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
              Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
        1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
        1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Timguska
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
        2 fighters moved from Hopei to Kansu
        9 artilleries and 24 infantry moved from India to West India
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 7 fighters, 1 infantry, 15 submarines, 5 tactical_bombers and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 7 fighters, 1 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
        1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
              Japanese take New Guinea from ANZAC

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 15 submarines and 1 transport
            ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 battleship, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 15 submarines and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
        Battle in Java
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 7 fighters, 1 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers
            ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 7 fighters, 1 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Java, round 2 : 9/14 hits, 7.50 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Java, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
            Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 7 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
        Battle in West India
            Japanese attack with 9 artilleries and 24 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 9 artilleries and 24 infantry in West India, round 2 : 10/33 hits, 8.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in West India, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in West India
            Japanese win, taking West India from Americans with 9 artilleries and 23 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry
        Battle in 45 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
            ANZAC defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 45 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        4 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        4 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
        2 carriers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 bomber moved from Yunnan to India
        1 infantry moved from Burma to India
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
        4 fighters moved from Hopei to 35 Sea Zone
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Hopei to India
        7 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone
        2 destroyers moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        5 submarines moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 9 infantry, 10 submarines and 5 transports moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kansu: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from India: 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to India: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kansu: 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India
        2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Japan
        2 mech_infantrys placed in French Indo China

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 35 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3
        Japanese collect 68 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 68 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
        Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.67
Japanese regular : 3.00
ANZAC regular : 1.17

[jkeller]

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[trulpen]

Soaked a sub hit on the bs. 5 more hits. Casualties?

Since you have one more soaking possibility I can’t make an assumption here.

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[jkeller]

shit being careless…didnt even consider you would attack there lol. ya soak the carrier please. then subs etc

[jkeller]

you know what? because of all the transports i take it back. leave the carrier intact for now. take sub hits in the first round in the off chance i get lucky and win here
am i right in assuming if there is nothing but your planes and my subs left that my transports would die right? i am still getting used to the rules in this version

[trulpen]

It’s tricky and the tr’s carry a lot of value.

If there’s nothing defending the tr’s, they die automatically.

One thing to consider is that ANZAC have a follow-up attack. I think though that keeping the carrier intact still gives you the best chance for survival. The air won’t be able to land, so when the ac is soaked, they die automatically even after a retreat.

[trulpen]

If there are only subs left on the defense and I still have air that is attacking, yes, then the subs survive, but all tr’s get sunk.

[trulpen]

Did some battle rounds on the principle. This last one might be tricky. 4 hits and the question is whether to take a des or fig as casualty. There is an aussie sub waiting in the backwaters.

Think you have to choose this. It’s just to delicate to assume.

L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB battle.tsvg

[trulpen]

Actually the bs is an alternative also.

[jkeller]

@trulpen cant believe i allowed this. I am doing my best with both germany and japan to let the allies back in the game lol

[jkeller]

@jkeller take two dd and two subs as casualties please. dont want my birds landing in the drink without even getting shot. on next round if there are exactly 4 hits you can take carrier and fighters down together and leave the bb to the last

[trulpen]

Will do. You got 4 hits on defense, so I’ll have to decide whether to press on or retreat.

I didn’t see that my sub could be taken as casualty from your sub hit, which is strange. I’ll correct that.