L22 Pejon_88 (X) vs. Gamerman01 (+12) BM4 game1

[Pejon_88]

@andrewaagamer Did you think AAA did it correctly when you pick casualties from subs first? Or did I misunderstand something here?

[gamerman01]

Delays are because I’m helping my college student change paths :dizzy_face:

OK, I chose the sub but want it back. I’m not sure I can edit it back in and have it roll correctly, so I’ll roll on the forum.

I lose the destroyer and the tac

Round 2
Carrier, sub, cruiser, fighter, bomber
vs dBB and G fighter
Sub surprise strike
[dice 1d6<3]

[dicebot]

1d6<3: 4; Hits: 0

[gamerman01]

[dice 2d6<4]
[dice 1d6<5]

[dicebot]

2d6<4: 1, 2; Hits: 2
1d6<5: 1; Hits: 1

[gamerman01]

Italian battleship
[dice 1d6<5]
German fighter
[dice 1d6<5}

[dicebot]

1d6<5: 1; Hits: 1

[gamerman01]

Uh, it only rolled one. Do you agree that since I labeled the first roll as the Italian battleship, that that was a battleship hit?
Fighter still needs to roll, if you see it the same way I do

[Pejon_88]

@gamerman01 Of course. Makes sense.

[gamerman01]

@andrewaagamer said in L22 Pejon_88 (X) vs. Gamerman01 (+12) BM4 game1:

@gamerman01 said in L22 Pejon_88 (X) vs. Gamerman01 (+12) BM4 game1:

Triple A is wrong to require a casualty choice after your ships fire. I may change the casualty choice for the ships’ hit after seeing the aircraft dice

How do you change the casualty choice after taking the losses? Very interested in learning that mechanic.

You can’t. That’s why I rolled the rest on the forum

[gamerman01]

Thank you.
German fighter defense roll
[dice 1d6<5}

[gamerman01]

Used a bracer, not a bracket.

Here goes again
[dice 1d6<5]

[dicebot]

1d6<5: 5; Hits: 0

[Pejon_88]

@gamerman01 Oh you have a } instead of a ] :D

[gamerman01]

Now I know why my first one failed, yes. I shifted right bracket two different times.

So to the battleship hit, I lose the sub.

Now that messy 97 is done, we game on.
But first I acknowledge good luck with G1 and UK1 scrambles. That was hurtful but we probably both did the right thing even though it brings in volatile dice

[gamerman01]

Thank you so much for facilitating that battle and for helping us get through it correctly!

[Pejon_88]

@gamerman01 I always look at games with a bit of pessimism from my own end, but with those two outcomes, I really struggle already round 1! For some reason I gamble too much against stronger players during round 1s, which is really stupid. Also, I am usually more cautions with scrambling myself and that affect how I think other players would do in similar situations, which is wrong. In hindsight your SZ110 scramble was reasonable, even without coming out on top I think.

[Pejon_88]

@gamerman01 Yes, sure!

[gamerman01]

@pejon_88 said in L22 Pejon_88 (X) vs. Gamerman01 (+12) BM4 game1:

@andrewaagamer Did you think AAA did it correctly when you pick casualties from subs first? Or did I misunderstand something here?

You should not pick casualties from subs first when they are opposing a destroyer because the destroyer nullifies the surprise strike capability. But when a sub does have surprise strike capability (no enemy destroyer) the rules say those sub surprise strike casualties are chosen (and removed) before the rest of the units roll. Triple A usually does these things correctly, but not always.
Attacking surprise strike subs roll and the defender picks ship casualties (only capital ships with one hit can fire back later), then defending surprise strike subs roll and the attacker removes ships for the hits (other than capital ships taking 1 hit). Then all surprise strike sub casualties are removed and you move on to all the other units. Triple A doesn’t always do this right.
The rules for surprise strike in the combat order are on page 19 of the 2nd edition Europe manual.

[Pejon_88]

@gamerman01 I thought AAA always did it wrong in battles with an opposing destroyer.