Elche (+18) vs Gamerman01 (x) BM4 rematch

[elche]

I dont really know much about the USA. I read a little bit about the war 1773 and Boston Tea Party and about Civil war 1861-1865. But know I knew a lot of Iowa and I am surprised. Your State Its called in Germany: Idyll (very lovely place to live) between Mississippi and Missouri River. Your state has near the half of the land as my whole country and only 3 million people against 84 million in Germany. You need 40 million people to have it like in Germany.
Many German tourits write about the Loess Hills National Scenic Byway and Great River Road. Pictures looks great. And Des Moines looks a little bit european ?

[elche]

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Kenya
              British take Kenya from Italians

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in 41 Sea Zone
            ANZAC attack with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Japanese defend with 1 battleship and 1 transport
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 41 Sea Zone
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser in 41 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 41 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser in 41 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 41 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the ANZAC lost in 41 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 battleship and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -20
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 54 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 62 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,6
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 14 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        3 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0,00
ANZAC regular : -1,83

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[gamerman01]

@elche Very interesting observations.

Yes, after looking at Hanover I looked up China again and their 114 cities that are over 1 million people. Then driving home from work Friday night (about 45 miles), I enjoyed all the open space that we have. Not like Wyoming or Montana, but with only 3 million in the whole State, we have breathing room.

[gamerman01]

So I got lucky in 41, that helps take a little sting out :anguished:

[gamerman01]

Iowa is actually a native American word, and I was told in school it means “a beautiful land”

Iowa was granted statehood in 1846.
European population in 1850 was 192,000
1860 was 675,000. If you go into a county courthouse, they list all who fought in the Civil war. Pretty much every able bodied man did.
1880 was 1.6 million. Farmland was pretty much up for grabs. You just had to clear the trees.

My great grandfather immigrated in approx 1870’s? from Germany. I would have to look up what part of Germany he came from. All my ancestors on both sides were immigrants, probably all after the civil war. Pretty much farmers who wanted to try it in America where the land was cheap. So my ancestors missed out on the Civil War in America (they were in Germany) and missed out on WWI and WWII (they were safely in USA) so they were very blessed.

So I know that relative to Europe, the middle of the USA is VERY young, and there were more native Americans (Indians) than Europeans here just about 150 years ago. Many of us kids grew up thinking that our ancestors beat off the bloody British in 1775 and 1812, but the reality is almost all of us were descended from recent immigrants from the 1870’s to 1920’s. But our parents and schoolteachers never pointed this out. :D :D

[gamerman01]

@gamerman01 said in Elche (+18) vs Gamerman01 (x) BM4 rematch:

I decided not to move the Italian sub away to Egypt, edited back to 95. Please use this one

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Moving Italian sub to 95
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[gamerman01]

Here’s my weird G4
Lol I’ve only played one game of balanced mod as the Axis, and that was in 2017. I think I got slammed by a UK scramble on G1, too. No wonder this feels strange.

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[elche]

Thank you for the informations.
very interesting that your family comes from Germany.
If you need any help to find something out I will help you. I can read a little bit of old german language (Süterlin) and I travel arond my country. I live in Hannover, work 3 month a year in Trier, visit my children in Stuttgart and Karlsruhe and stay 2 times a year in Berlin. My Grandparents(m) come from Olstyn (Allenstein) and Bytom (Beuthen), Gp(f) from Leipzig and Hannover.
After 1872 and the II German Reich condition to live in Germany are much better.
If I visit USA I will look for a part of my family(sister of my Grandma) went to USA ca. 1915 to Waco/Texas. Her Name was Eggert. I have only 1 picture from 1926. If you are interested I will do a scan from picture and at least Name of Birth.

[elche]

Did you understand and read german ?
For sure there is any part of your family still in Germany.

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 artillery moved from Karelia to Finland
        2 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
        1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
        3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
        2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Belarus

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Finland
            Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
            Russians win, taking Finland from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Western Ukraine
            Russians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 6 : 2/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
            Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
        Battle in Belarus
            Russians attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 2 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Belarus, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
            Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 fighters moved from Belarus to Russia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Russia
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Rostov
        3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
        6 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        4 artilleries moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        12 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        2 artilleries moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Russia
        2 artilleries moved from Russia to Tambov
        2 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov
        1 infantry moved from Vologda to Russia
        1 artillery moved from Vologda to Russia
        2 infantry moved from Yenisey to Yakut S.S.R.
        3 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
        1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Buryatia to Sakha

    Place Units - Russians
        1 infantry placed in Novgorod
        1 infantry placed in Volgograd
        1 armour, 3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 37 PUs
        Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 39 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -2,67
Russians regular : -1,17

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[elche]

Its my first year in my life I play BM and you know exactly how many games I play in my life. Please do a stastic about our games in life :blush:

[elche]

#1 2021 4 games OOB
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[gamerman01]

I do not know any German. You can take it as a class in college, but few do. Because of WWI, the German language was severely discouraged. Many spoke German in church services but that was banned. I don’t think the German language ever recovered in USA, and most other European languages as well. Immigrants in the late 1800s and early 1900s wanted to assimilate and become Americans, and learned English while discarding their language and even their heritage.

[gamerman01]

I don’t know why I didn’t get alerted that you posted 12 hours ago… Was on a different computer, but still…

Well, now I see it

[gamerman01]

It appears neither the Germans nor the Russians want to fight any more. Eventually they accidentally got some hits :D

[gamerman01]

Casualty choice for Cha please

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[elche]

max. defense please

[gamerman01]

Thank you for the quick reply, that’s nice

[gamerman01]

Oh, they came from Anhwe, so I won’t be retreating - you made a good choice

[gamerman01]

I made a movement edit from Celebes to Kwa.
I guess the transport “participated” in combat so I couldn’t move it in non-com. I could have loaded the 2 infantry from Celebes and transported them to Kwa, which was my plan all along, but I was supposed to do that in the combat movement phase.

I assume you allow, but you have the right to disallow. My transport and the 2 infantry would be stuck at the Celebes.

I will point out that I remembered my NSW sub and moved it to Z52 because that would be easy to overlook, unless you go through move by move, which I do.

Here’s J4!

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[elche]

No problem with your edit. But looks not nice how strong the Japenese are. Hope I can defend India.

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
        1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Southern France
        Battle in Borneo

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 armour moved from Tunisia to Tobruk
        1 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer, 1 mech_infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 destroyer moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands

    Place Units - Americans
        1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone
        2 carriers placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in Western United States
        1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 54 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 69 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Guerilla Anhwe: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Anhwe
        Trigger Chinese Guerilla Hunan: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Hunan
        4 infantry moved from Hopei to Chahar

    Combat - Chinese
        Chinese creates battle in territory Hunan
        Chinese creates battle in territory Anhwe
        Battle in Chahar
            Chinese attack with 4 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar
            Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese, taking Anhwe from Japanese, taking Chahar from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Kweichow
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Anhwe

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Szechwan
        1 infantry placed in Shensi
        1 infantry placed in Hopei

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 11 PUs; end with 13 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 4 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
        Battle in 97 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 submarine
            Italians defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Italians: 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 infantry moved from Iraq to 80 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to India
        1 artillery moved from Burma to India
        1 mech_infantry moved from Ethiopia to Egypt
        1 armour moved from Egypt to Iraq
        1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        1 infantry moved from Turkmenistan to Kazakhstan
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia
        2 artilleries moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from British Guiana to 88 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 88 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 mech_infantry moved from Eire to 109 Sea Zone
        2 cruisers, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 aaGun, 1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom

    Place Units - British
        1 submarine placed in 81 Sea Zone
        1 submarine placed in 71 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer placed in 106 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Persia
        2 infantry placed in Egypt
        British undo move 5.
        British undo move 2.
        1 submarine placed in 81 Sea Zone
        1 infantry placed in Egypt
        1 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
        Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        3 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0,67
Japanese regular : 0,33

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