Pejon_88 (Allies +16) vs. Naviator (X), BM4, game 1


  • @pejon_88 I was wondering, if I use airplanes to attack and non-con them to a territory with an AF, can I scramble or I cannot because they were in combat during that round?

    My bomber wasn’t doing much so I decided to bomb the factory, you are using that factory, therefore I think it is a good move. I guess one could argue that since it’s a minor factory I am losing value and that you can ditch it anytime you want. I don’t think it’s necessary a bad move, in case it is, maybe just slightly.

  • '23 '22

    @naviator If you use them on say Germany’s turn and land them where there is an AB you can scramble them on any of the opposing countries’ turn, so yes.

    What I mean is that you will grab that factory in two turns, which pretty much negates me building in it from R6 and on since you will easily kill everything left there when you arrive. Since USSR usually gets pushed back to towards Moscow sooner or later, I don’t mind that much building new units in my farther factories since the front will gradually be pushed closer and closer to Moscow it that makes sense.

  • '23 '22

    @pejon_88 USSR fights a defensive war until it can get assistance from its Allies, unless it has already fallen by then hehe.


  • @pejon_88 Yeah, I am familiar with the scenario. Usually British supply their Fighters to hold Karelia in '42 and USA goes also or to the Mediterranean. I just thought Germany here needs to defend more so than to attack USSR.


  • '23 '22

    @naviator No, the “only” way Axis can win is by keeping the momentum. If you get into mid-game and it’s a stalemate, Allies will most likely out-build the Axis if they have a superior income.

  • '23 '22

    Round: 8
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 transport; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
            1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Northwest Persia
            1 armour moved from Volgograd to Samara
                  Italians take Samara from Russians
            1 armour moved from Samara to Novosibirsk
                  Italians take Novosibirsk from Russians
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in Northwest Persia
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Northwest Persia
                Italians win, taking Northwest Persia from British with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Rostov
            1 bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 transport placed in 110 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 11
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1,3,4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,3,6,2,6,2,6,6,5,1
            Italians collect 9 PUs (11 lost to blockades); end with 12 PUs
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 14 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : 0,67
    British regular : -0,33
    

    UK5.tsvg


  • @pejon_88 I assume this summary is from another game.

  • '23 '22

    @naviator Yes apologies, but the save file is correct.


  • '23 '22

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
                  Chinese take Yunnan from Japanese
    
        Combat - ANZAC
    
        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 fighters moved from New Zealand to 54 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from New South Wales to 54 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 marine moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 cruiser moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - ANZAC
            2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs
    
        Combat Move - French
    
        Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
    
        Turn Complete - French
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    FR5.tsvg


  • '23 '22


  • @pejon_88 I would like to take a break from the game since I have upcoming exams, I hope you are okay with it.

  • '23 '22

    @naviator Yes sure. Good luck and play later.

  • '23 '22

    @Naviator when do you expect to play again?


  • @pejon_88 Hi, expect a file this Saturday, maybe earlier. I hope that is okay, if not, I guess I could play my move tommorow.

  • '23 '22

    @naviator That is fine :) Just wanted to check-in with you.


  • @pejon_88 J6.tsvg I’m back! Kinda had forgotten my plans here. :/

  • '23 '22

    Round: 6
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                  Americans take Tunisia from Italians
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Sumatra
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 7 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 marine, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 30 Sea Zone to Johnston Island
            1 infantry moved from 30 Sea Zone to Johnston Island
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 30 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland
            2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to Tunisia
            2 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 marine placed in Central United States
            1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
            2 fighters placed in Western United States
            Americans undo move 1.
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 2 transports
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 92 Sea Zone: 2 transports
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Sikang
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Sikang
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Sikang, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sikang, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Sikang, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sikang, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Sikang, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sikang, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sikang
                Chinese win, taking Sikang from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Sikang to Tsinghai
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Tsinghai
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 2 PUs; end with 4 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 2 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 marine moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Crete
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Crete
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete
            2 cruisers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from French Central Africa to French West Africa
                  British take French West Africa from Neutral_Axis
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from India to Yunnan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Tsinghai to Yunnan
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Crete
                British attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 2 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Crete, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Crete, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Crete
                British win, taking Crete from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                British attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan
                British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Tsinghai
            2 artilleries moved from Burma to Shan State
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Shan State
            2 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from French Madagascar to 72 Sea Zone
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt
            2 marines moved from Trans-Jordan to 98 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers and 2 marines moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Crete to 99 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Crete to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Crete to Trans-Jordan
            1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Tunisia
            1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Syria
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 72 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
    
        Place Units - British
            2 fighters placed in United Kingdom
            1 mech_infantry placed in Union of South Africa
            3 infantry placed in Egypt
            1 submarine placed in 106 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            2 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 36 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2
            UK_Pacific collect 11 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 11 PUs
            Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 14 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 2 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : -1,00
    Italians regular : -0,67
    Japanese regular : -0,33
    British regular : 1,00
    

    Yeah don’t remember either :D

    Will you allow my US fig edits at end of UK turn?

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