Pejon_88 (Allies +16) vs. Naviator (X), BM4, game 1

[Naviator]

@naviator Actually, I am not sure how to press Egypt. If I put everything in Alexandria, I feel like I lose either all of it or my navy if I support it with 4 extra units and you can land up to 7 planes in Egypt so it is always very well defended. Not sure how to do it, maybe just retreat all of them to Italy as to have 3 Figs to scramble them, just to be a threat and slowly build up, but my Figs cannot attack then. Feels like a race for weaponizing which Allies probably win.

[Naviator]

@naviator G4.tsvg I am hoping you did not this one coming. I improvised it on G3. :D

[Pejon_88]

@naviator Yeah as UK first turn you need to consider Germany going for London which will show itself G2. I will paste my game versus Simon33 below so you can see how it is possible to take all island J3 for example.

You could put everything in Alexandria and land German planes for defense against a UK attack. You managed to save your navy first turn and think something similar could be done but instead of taking Crete you stack in Alexandria and/or Trans-Jordan.

The more conventional way is to save your Italian navy outside Rome and use it later or have it as a threat. Then you don’t take Egypt maybe, but if you force UK to spend everything in London it’s possible.

[Pejon_88]

@Naviator Also, no USSR will not take Berlin, but if Germany loses initiative it’s a slippery slope. You need to be around Moscow G6 or so in order to collect on the many objectives around Caucasus etc.

[Pejon_88]

@pejon_88 R3.tsvg

Game versus Simon33: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/39248/pejon_88-x-vs-simon33-allies-16-bm4-game-1/53

[Naviator]

@pejon_88 I saw the game, looks interesting but raises a lot of questions, I would like to play against that as allies. J4.tsvg

[Pejon_88]

@naviator Yes, we can switch sides after this one :)

What kind of questions specifically?

[Pejon_88]

UK4.tsvg

[Naviator]

@pejon_88 If I go south with a lot of ships, cannot USA just take a lot of islands and sea and zone Japan out of Tokyo and essentially disable the transport of units.

[Naviator]

@pejon_88 T4.tsvg

[Pejon_88]

@naviator You mean in our game or in general? There are ways around. USA will not position themselves in SZ6 if they risk being wiped out. The major issue for Japan is if USA positions itself in SZ6 and God forbids builds a factory in Korea, by then the end is most likely near for Japan. However, Japan starts out with a much bigger fleet than the US one. 2 battleships, 2 cruisers, 3 ACs and so on. USA only has 1 dis-positioned battleship and 1 AC, 2? cruisers. Japan starts with 21!! aircraft and it takes 10-15 turns before USA can match Japan if they spend on both the west and east coasts. A more advanced move to unable US and ANZAC to set out blockers (destroyers) is flying a couple of German bombers via China to land on the coast of south-east Asia :)

What I would recommend for land units with Japan is factories, max 2-3, along the coast. Great positions are FIC, Kwantung, Malaya. Then you don’t rely on Tokyo for land units.

[Pejon_88]

@pejon_88 FR4.tsvg

[Naviator]

@pejon_88 What if a player goes mostly Pacific with USA, like 80%+, it is much sooner than R10 that US fleet becomes bigger unless Japan doesn’t build land units. I suppose Germany needs to be aggressive, but I don’t know who would win the race, seems like a close battle.

[Naviator]

@pejon_88 G5.tsvg If I attack, can I scramble later during that turn? Also, is it possible to scramble twice during one round?

[Pejon_88]

@naviator I think you answered the question yourself, if USA spends the majority of its money in the Pac, a savvy Axis player will conquer Europe rather easily.

[Pejon_88]

@naviator Not sure exactly what you mean. You can always scramble as the defender with an operational AB (i.e. max 2 points if damage). You can for example scramble during the US combat turn and then again during the UK combat turn if there are available/surviving figs/tacs.

[Pejon_88]

R5.tsvg @pejon_88

I advise against bombing USSR factories other than Moscow. You want to grab the other factories with Germany asap and then you would have to repair the damage you, yourself caused. Also, there is the 1/6 risk of losing a valuable 14IPC bomber.

[Naviator]

@pejon_88 I was wondering, if I use airplanes to attack and non-con them to a territory with an AF, can I scramble or I cannot because they were in combat during that round?

My bomber wasn’t doing much so I decided to bomb the factory, you are using that factory, therefore I think it is a good move. I guess one could argue that since it’s a minor factory I am losing value and that you can ditch it anytime you want. I don’t think it’s necessary a bad move, in case it is, maybe just slightly.

[Pejon_88]

@naviator If you use them on say Germany’s turn and land them where there is an AB you can scramble them on any of the opposing countries’ turn, so yes.

What I mean is that you will grab that factory in two turns, which pretty much negates me building in it from R6 and on since you will easily kill everything left there when you arrive. Since USSR usually gets pushed back to towards Moscow sooner or later, I don’t mind that much building new units in my farther factories since the front will gradually be pushed closer and closer to Moscow it that makes sense.

[Pejon_88]

@pejon_88 USSR fights a defensive war until it can get assistance from its Allies, unless it has already fallen by then hehe.