L22 #3 trulpen (X) vs farmboy (A+17) BM4



  • @trulpen max d. destroy the carrier, lose the tac, 2 cruisers and 1 fig


  • Which fig, french or UK?


  • @trulpen I’ll lose French


  • @trulpen well that was a disappointing roll, but could have been worse.


  • @farmboy said in L22 #3 trulpen (X) vs farmboy (A+17) BM4:

    well that was a disappointing roll, but could have been worse.

    Yes, better than expected for me, but a lot of air went down for both sides. Guess it was worth it still.

    G3 L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 3

       Research Technology - Germans
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - Germans
    
           Germans buy 4 infantry and 10 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Politics - Germans
    
           Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
    
               Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
    
               Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
    
               Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Germans
    
           1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
    
                 Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
    
           1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
    
                 Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
    
           1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States
    
                 Germans take Baltic States from Russians
    
           1 armour moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
    
           1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
    
                 Germans take Karelia from Russians
    
           1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
    
                 Germans take Vyborg from Russians
    
           2 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone
    
           3 fighters moved from Greece to 92 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 123 Sea Zone to Iceland
    
           1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
    
                 Germans take Normandy Bordeaux from French
    
           1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
    
    
    
       Combat - Germans
    
           British scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone
    
           Battle in Iceland
    
           Battle in Holland Belgium
    
               Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    
               French defend with 1 infantry
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the French lost in Holland Belgium
    
               Germans win, taking Iceland from British, taking Holland Belgium from French with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
    
               Casualties for French: 1 infantry
    
           Battle in 92 Sea Zone
    
               Germans attack with 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers
    
               British defend with 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 3 fighters, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports; French defend with 1 fighter
    
               1 submarine owned by the British submerged
    
                   Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/10 hits, 5,83 expected hits
    
                   British roll dice for 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 4 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 4,50 expected hits
    
                   1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 2 cruisers owned by the British, 3 fighters owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the French and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone
    
                   Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/7 hits, 4,17 expected hits
    
                   British roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 transports in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 2,00 expected hits
    
                   1 transport owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans and 3 fighters owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone
    
                   1 transport owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone
    
               Germans win with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 54
    
               Casualties for Germans: 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
    
               Casualties for French: 1 fighter
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Germans
    
           2 bombers moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
    
           1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
    
           2 tactical_bombers moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
    
           1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
    
           1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
    
           2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
    
           2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 5 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
    
           1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
    
           1 armour moved from Norway to Karelia
    
           1 aaGun and 6 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
    
           1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
    
           2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to France
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
    
           5 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
    
    
    
       Place Units - Germans
    
           10 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
    
           1 infantry placed in Western Germany
    
           3 infantry placed in France
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Germans
    
           Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs
    
           Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs
    
           Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 51 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : -0,33

    Germans regular : 1,17

    British regular : -1,50


  • Hmm, might support the italian tanks a bit. Wait, I’ll check.


  • @trulpen You definitely beat the average and hit my tuv much harder. I didn’t think you would go for it because it was such a risk.

    The loss of German air probably gives the USSR a bit more time but it significantly sets the UK back.


  • Yes, I agree. Wanted to help little brother out.

    Going with this change.

    G3 edit L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg


  • Felt rather committed after the investment of the ab in Greece.


  • And the sacrifice of the tr of course.


  • @trulpen I’m not entirely decided on the move Europe side but need to get some sleep. The alternative is stacking Belarus and teh sub could change as well. Pacific side is certain, so if you don’t mind me revisiting the Europe side, feel free to make the japan move.

    Sov3.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 armour, 3 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Russians
            Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War
    
        Combat Move - Russians
    
        Combat - Russians
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            6 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Vologda to Novgorod
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            2 aaGuns and 6 artilleries moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            9 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
            2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
            13 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
    
        Place Units - Russians
            3 artilleries placed in Novgorod
            3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs
            Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs
            Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 39 PUs
            Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 41 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :


  • If i was to stack belarus instead the buy would probably change as well.


  • It’s ok to change after Japan.


  • J3 L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 3

       Purchase Units - Japanese
    
           Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
    
    
       Politics - Japanese
    
           Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
    
           Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Japanese
    
           Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese
    
           1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
    
                 Japanese take Kansu from Chinese
    
           1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
    
                 Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
    
           1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
    
                 Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese
    
           1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
    
                 Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific
    
           1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
    
                 Japanese take French Indo China from French
    
           1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
    
           1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
    
           2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
    
           1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
    
           1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
    
           1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
    
           1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
    
           1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
    
           4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
    
           1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangtung
    
           2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Yunnan
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
    
           1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
    
           2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Philippines
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
    
           2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
    
           1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
    
           1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
    
           1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
    
           1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
    
           1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
    
           1 battleship moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Combat - Japanese
    
           Battle in Java
    
           Battle in Borneo
    
           Battle in Celebes
    
           Battle in Sumatra
    
           Battle in Guam
    
           Battle in Malaya
    
           Battle in Kwangtung
    
               Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
    
               British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 2 : 5/8 hits, 3,33 expected hits
    
                   UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   2 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung
    
               Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific, taking Guam from Americans, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
    
               Casualties for British: 2 infantry
    
           Battle in Philippines
    
               Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 marine
    
               Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Philippines, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 marine in Philippines, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits
    
                   Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines
    
               Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 2 bombers, 1 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
    
               Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
               Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
    
           Battle in Yunnan
    
               Japanese attack with 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 5 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
    
               Chinese defend with 4 infantry
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 5 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 6/14 hits, 5,83 expected hits
    
                   Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
    
                   2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
    
               Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
    
               Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
    
               Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Japanese
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 39 Sea Zone: 1 transport
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
    
           1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
    
           1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
    
           1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
    
           1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
    
           1 armour moved from Jehol to Hunan
    
           1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
    
           1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
    
           2 fighters moved from Kwangtung to 6 Sea Zone
    
           3 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to Japan
    
           1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
    
           1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
    
           2 destroyers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
    
           2 destroyers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
    
           1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
    
           1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           2 fighters moved from Yunnan to 42 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 42 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to 41 Sea Zone
    
           2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to 35 Sea Zone
    
           2 bombers moved from Philippines to Kiangsi
    
           2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
    
           2 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Hopei
    
    
    
       Place Units - Japanese
    
           1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Japanese
    
           Japanese collect 62 PUs; end with 63 PUs
    
           Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 66 PUs
    
           Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0,67

    Americans regular : 0,33

    Japanese regular : 3,67

    UK_Pacific regular : -0,67


  • Change positioning around the DEI.

    J3 L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg


  • Another change, although I’m not att the computer so can’t post a new file. Anyway, the sub will stay in z42 instead of joining the bs in z37. Juat a little extra support to further dissuade some crazy double-attack on the fleet.


  • May even have to pull back more from z41 and/or 37. Will have to look at it more closely.


  • Better safe than sorry. Stacking z42.


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