Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy nothing; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
@domanmacgee ame History
Round: 3
Puchase Units - British
Turning on Edit Mode
British buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - British
EDIT: British takes Kamerun from Germans
EDIT: British takes Mesopotamia from Ottomans
EDIT: British takes Mesopotamia from Ottomans
EDIT: British takes Kamerun from Germans
EDIT: 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Kamerun
EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Persia to Mesopotamia
EDIT: 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from India to Persia
EDIT: 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 17 infantry moved from Persia to Sevastopol
EDIT: British undo move 4.
EDIT: British undo move 2.
EDIT: British undo move 1.
EDIT: British undo move 1.
EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Persia to Mesopotamia
EDIT: 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry moved from Persia to Sevastopol
EDIT: 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from India to Persia
EDIT: 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Kamerun
EDIT: 1 transport moved from SZ 7 to SZ 2
EDIT: 2 infantry moved from Canada to SZ 2
EDIT: 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 2 to SZ 7
EDIT: 2 infantry moved from SZ 7 to Ireland
EDIT: 2 cruisers moved from SZ 19 to SZ 17
Combat - British
EDIT: Recording Battle Statistics
Combat Move - British
EDIT: Cleaning up during movement phase
Place Units - British
1 artillery, 1 fighter and 8 infantry placed in India
Turn Complete - British
British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Not sure why all of my actions are showing as EDIT Mode (probably because of the edit I made on F3). I didn’t see anything off about the moves that made it to the board, but make sure things look normal on your end before committing to any battles.
Game History
Round: 3
Puchase Units - Ottomans
Ottomans buy 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Ottomans
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Trans-Jordan
Ottomans take Trans-Jordan from British
1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Smyrna
2 fighters moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia
4 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Arabia to Mesopotamia
1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
3 infantry moved from Serbia to Trieste
Combat - Ottomans
Battle in Mesopotamia
Ottomans attack with 5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 13 infantry
British defend with 1 infantry
Ottomans roll dice for 5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 13 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 11/20 hits, 9.17 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the British lost in Mesopotamia
Ottomans win, taking Mesopotamia from British with 5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 13 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for British: 1 infantry
Combat Move - Ottomans
Place Units - Ottomans
1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in Constantinople
Turn Complete - Ottomans
Ottomans collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Ottomans regular : 1.83
British regular : -0.50
Not sure why all of my actions are showing as EDIT Mode (probably because of the edit I made on F3). I didn’t see anything off about the moves that made it to the board, but make sure things look normal on your end before committing to any battles.
According to the “History”, the EDIT was activated at the top of the UK turn. You may have accidentally activated it (either by the drop down menu itself or by Ctrl+E). I’m surprised you were able to finish out your turn with that thing on.
@the_good_captain Game History
Round: 3
Puchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Italians
1 infantry moved from German East Africa to Belgian Congo
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Rome to SZ 17
2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Egypt
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Venice to Tyrolia
1 fighter moved from Rome to Venice
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tuscany to Venice
1 infantry moved from Rome to Tuscany
Combat - Italians
Battle in Tyrolia
Italians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
AustroHungarians defend with 1 infantry
Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Tyrolia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tyrolia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians lost in Tyrolia
Italians win, taking Tyrolia from AustroHungarians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry
Combat Move - Italians
Place Units - Italians
5 infantry placed in Rome
Turn Complete - Italians
Italians collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0.33
AustroHungarians regular : -0.50
USA3 is next.
@domanmacgee Game History
Round: 3
Puchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Place Units - Americans
1 cruiser and 1 transport placed in SZ 1
1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in United States of America
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
As I’m sure you’re already aware, starting from round 4 the Russian Revolution is in effect and America is allowed to actually start playing.
Game History
Round: 4
Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
Condition TankProductionAustroHungarians: AustroHungarians has their production frontier changed to: lateWarProduction
AustroHungarians buy 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - AustroHungarians
2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Trieste to Albania
1 infantry moved from Trieste to SZ 18
1 infantry moved from SZ 18 to Tuscany
1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry moved from Trieste to Tyrolia
1 fighter moved from Galicia to Tyrolia
1 fighter moved from Vienna to Albania
3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Vienna to Tyrolia
1 fighter moved from Galicia to Tyrolia
9 artilleries, 1 fighter and 27 infantry moved from Galicia to Poland
Combat - AustroHungarians
Battle in Tuscany
AustroHungarians attack with 1 infantry
Italians defend with 1 infantry
AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 battleship in Tuscany, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tuscany, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tuscany, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tuscany
Italians win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry
Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
Battle in Tyrolia
AustroHungarians attack with 4 artilleries, 3 fighters and 8 infantry
Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
AustroHungarians roll dice for 4 artilleries, 3 fighters and 8 infantry in Tyrolia, round 2 : 6/15 hits, 7.00 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Tyrolia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tyrolia
AustroHungarians win, taking Tyrolia from Italians with 4 artilleries, 3 fighters and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry
Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Battle in Albania
AustroHungarians attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
French defend with 1 infantry
AustroHungarians roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Albania
AustroHungarians win, taking Albania from Italians with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry
Casualties for French: 1 infantry
Combat Move - AustroHungarians
Place Units - AustroHungarians
1 fighter, 7 infantry and 1 tank placed in Vienna
Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
AustroHungarians collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.50
AustroHungarians regular : 0.00
@the_good_captain Game History
Round: 4
Puchase Units - Russians
Condition TankProductionRussians: Russians has their production frontier changed to: lateWarProduction
Russians buy 1 artillery and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
13 artilleries, 3 fighters and 40 infantry moved from Ukraine to Moscow
Combat - Russians
Combat Move - Russians
Place Units - Russians
1 artillery and 6 infantry placed in Moscow
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 4
Puchase Units - Germans
Condition TankProductionGermans: Germans has their production frontier changed to: lateWarProduction
Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 2 tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
11 infantry moved from Munich to Tyrolia
10 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Munich to Ruhr
2 infantry moved from Hanover to Ruhr
1 infantry moved from Alsace to Munich
1 fighter moved from Berlin to Ruhr
1 infantry moved from Silesia to Bohemia
9 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover
1 fighter moved from Silesia to Ukraine
Germans take Ukraine from Russians
1 infantry moved from Belarus to Ukraine
1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Poland to Ukraine
1 fighter moved from Livonia to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Livonia to Karelia
Germans take Karelia from Russians
3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Silesia to Poland
4 infantry moved from Berlin to Silesia
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
Germans take Rhodesia from British
Combat - Germans
Germans creates battle in territory SZ 9
Combat Move - Germans
Place Units - Germans
2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 2 tanks placed in Berlin
Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs
@the_good_captain I went for it in Tyrolia. LMK your OOL preference:
@domanmacgee drop the German infantry
@the_good_captain Game History
Round: 4
Puchase Units - French
Condition TankProductionFrench: French has their production frontier changed to: lateWarProduction
French buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - French
5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 22 infantry moved from Switzerland to Tyrolia
1 infantry moved from Lorraine to Switzerland
1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Burgundy to Switzerland
1 infantry moved from Belgium to Alsace
French take Alsace from Germans
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Picardy to Belgium
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Paris to Burgundy
2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Paris to Picardy
Combat - French
Air Battle in Tyrolia
French attacks with 2 units heading to Tyrolia
AustroHungarians launches 3 interceptors out of Tyrolia
Attackers Fire, : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Defenders Fire, : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
1 fighter owned by the French lost in Tyrolia
Attackers Fire, : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Defenders Fire, : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
1 fighter owned by the French lost in Tyrolia
Air Battle is over, the attackers have all died
Battle in Tyrolia
French attack with 5 artilleries and 22 infantry
Germans defend with 11 infantry; AustroHungarians defend with 4 artilleries, 3 fighters and 7 infantry
French roll dice for 5 artilleries and 22 infantry in Tyrolia, round 2 : 11/27 hits, 10.67 expected hits
AustroHungarians roll dice for 4 artilleries, 3 fighters and 18 infantry in Tyrolia, round 2 : 12/25 hits, 12.67 expected hits
11 infantry owned by the Germans and 12 infantry owned by the French lost in Tyrolia
AustroHungarians and French reach a stalemate
. Battle score for attacker is -3
Casualties for French: 12 infantry
Casualties for Germans: 11 infantry
Combat Move - French
Place Units - French
1 artillery, 2 fighters and 5 infantry placed in Paris
Turn Complete - French
French collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : 0.33
Defenders Fire, : 1.00
Attackers Fire, : -1.00
AustroHungarians regular : -0.67
@The_Good_Captain while I have you here, INF before FTRs in Ukraine?
@domanmacgee 3 infantry is fine
@the_good_captain That might have been bad, but we’ll see how things go:
Game History
Round: 4
Puchase Units - British
Condition TankProductionBritish: British has their production frontier changed to: lateWarProduction
British buy 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - British
2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Persia to Sevastopol
1 fighter moved from India to Sevastopol
1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Persia to Sevastopol
1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from India to Persia
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kamerun to Nigeria
1 transport moved from SZ 7 to SZ 2
2 infantry moved from Canada to SZ 2
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 2 to SZ 7
2 infantry moved from SZ 7 to Ireland
Combat - British
Battle in Nigeria
British attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
Germans defend with 1 infantry
British roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Nigeria, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Nigeria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Nigeria
British win, taking Nigeria from Germans with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Air Battle in Ukraine
British attacks with 1 units heading to Ukraine
Germans launches 2 interceptors out of Ukraine
Attackers Fire, : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Defenders Fire, : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Attackers Fire, : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Defenders Fire, : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Attackers Fire, : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Defenders Fire, : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
1 fighter owned by the British lost in Ukraine
Air Battle is over, the attackers have all died
Battle in Ukraine
British attack with 2 artilleries and 8 infantry
Germans defend with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 7 infantry
British roll dice for 2 artilleries and 8 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 4.00 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 7 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 7/10 hits, 4.83 expected hits
3 infantry owned by the Germans and 7 infantry owned by the British lost in Ukraine
Germans and British reach a stalemate
. Battle score for attacker is -12
Casualties for British: 7 infantry
Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
Combat Move - British
Place Units - British
3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry placed in India
Turn Complete - British
British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Defenders Fire, : -1.00
Attackers Fire, : -1.00
Germans regular : 1.67
British regular : -0.67
Game History
Round: 4
Puchase Units - Ottomans
Condition TankProductionOttomans: Ottomans has their production frontier changed to: lateWarProduction
Ottomans buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Ottomans
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Ottomans from Trieste: 2 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Tyrolia: 2 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 13 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Persia
1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia
1 infantry moved from Arabia to Mesopotamia
1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Arabia
1 infantry moved from Smyrna to Trans-Jordan
1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Smyrna
1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
Combat - Ottomans
Battle in Persia
Ottomans attack with 5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 13 infantry
British defend with 1 artillery and 8 infantry
Ottomans roll dice for 5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 13 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 9/20 hits, 9.17 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 artillery and 8 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 4.50 expected hits
6 infantry owned by the Ottomans, 1 artillery owned by the British and 8 infantry owned by the British lost in Persia
Ottomans win, taking Persia from British with 5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
Casualties for Ottomans: 6 infantry
Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 8 infantry
Combat Move - Ottomans
Place Units - Ottomans
2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Constantinople
Turn Complete - Ottomans
Ottomans collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Ottomans regular : -0.17
British regular : 1.50
@the_good_captain Just to confirm, Ottomans first then Austrians?
@domanmacgee yessir
@the_good_captain Game History
Round: 4
Puchase Units - Italians
Condition TankProductionItalians: Italians has their production frontier changed to: lateWarProduction
Italians buy 3 artilleries and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Italians
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Tyrolia: 2 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Ottomans to Tyrolia: 2 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
10 infantry moved from Venice to Tyrolia
6 artilleries moved from Venice to Tyrolia
EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
EDIT: Italians undo move 1.
10 infantry moved from Venice to Tyrolia
6 artilleries moved from Venice to Tyrolia
5 infantry moved from Rome to Tuscany
Combat - Italians
Battle in Tyrolia
Italians attack with 6 artilleries and 10 infantry; French loiter and taunt
AustroHungarians defend with 4 artilleries, 3 fighters and 7 infantry; Ottomans defend with 2 infantry
Italians roll dice for 6 artilleries and 10 infantry in Tyrolia, round 2 : 7/16 hits, 7.33 expected hits
AustroHungarians roll dice for 4 artilleries, 3 fighters and 9 infantry in Tyrolia, round 2 : 7/16 hits, 8.17 expected hits
5 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 2 infantry owned by the Ottomans and 7 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tyrolia
AustroHungarians and Italians reach a stalemate
. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Italians: 7 infantry
Casualties for AustroHungarians: 5 infantry
Casualties for Ottomans: 2 infantry
Combat Move - Italians
1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Kamerun
Place Units - Italians
3 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Rome
Turn Complete - Italians
Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0.33
AustroHungarians regular : -1.17
USA4 next.
@domanmacgee Game History
Round: 4
Puchase Units - Americans
Condition TankProductionAmericans: Americans has their production frontier changed to: lateWarProduction
Americans buy 2 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
Trigger AmericansRemoveRestrictions: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans
Trigger AmericansJoinWar: Changing Relationship for AustroHungarians and Americans from Neutral to War
Trigger AmericansJoinWar: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutral to Allied
Trigger AmericansJoinWar: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutral to War
Trigger AmericansJoinWar: Changing Relationship for French and Americans from Neutral to Allied
Trigger AmericansJoinWar: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutral to Allied
Trigger AmericansJoinWar: Changing Relationship for Ottomans and Americans from Neutral to War
Trigger AmericansJoinWar: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutral to Allied
5 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1
1 battleship moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14
5 artilleries, 7 infantry and 6 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14
2 cruisers moved from SZ 1 to SZ 7
Combat Move - Americans
Place Units - Americans
2 transports placed in SZ 1
2 infantry placed in United States of America
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 20 PUs; end with 22 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
I could have probably managed my USA buys better but what’s done is done. Over to you.
Game History
Round: 5
Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
AustroHungarians buy 7 infantry and 2 tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - AustroHungarians
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Tyrolia: 1 infantry
EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Tyrolia: 1 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Poland to Belarus
1 infantry moved from Poland to Livonia
1 fighter moved from Vienna to Ukraine
1 fighter moved from Poland to Livonia
9 artilleries and 25 infantry moved from Poland to Ukraine
3 fighters moved from Tyrolia to Vienna
1 fighter moved from Albania to Vienna
6 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
1 artillery moved from Tyrolia to Vienna
1 tank moved from Vienna to Trieste
2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Trieste
3 artilleries moved from Tyrolia to Trieste
1 infantry moved from Tyrolia to Trieste
Combat - AustroHungarians
Battle in Ukraine
Germans loiter and taunt; AustroHungarians attack with 9 artilleries, 1 fighter and 26 infantry
British defend with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
AustroHungarians roll dice for 9 artilleries, 1 fighter and 26 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 14/36 hits, 16.50 expected hits
British roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
2 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 2 artilleries owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ukraine
AustroHungarians win with 9 artilleries, 1 fighter and 24 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
Casualties for AustroHungarians: 2 infantry
Casualties for British: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
Combat Move - AustroHungarians
Place Units - AustroHungarians
7 infantry and 2 tanks placed in Vienna
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Tyrolia: 1 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to Tyrolia: 1 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
AustroHungarians collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
AustroHungarians regular : -2.50
British regular : 0.50