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[Imperious Leader]

It’s not just economics. Manpower and the national resolve are also critical. If the Soviets lost the Axis would have alot more manpower than our ability to match along with England, which was near the breaking point after many years of war. Thats why Churchill got replaced before the war even ended. The axis exploit its manpower much more efficiently than Western Democracies.

If the Soviets lost and UK was stripped of her colonies, its likely that USA would just be fighting Japan because of the direct threat, but our material advantage is unquestioned, the question is how many lives get lost fighting what becomes a lost war to save Europe with no prospect of hope…. the hope was coming from Soviets eating 85% of the total German military economy and with that removed, a huge problem of how many American lives will pay for Europe?

To me the public would not allow FDR to fight the Germans, but only support the japanese fight. Americans would not be willing to lose 8 million more soldiers just to save france and get back the Russian and British partners.

If you look purely at economics the axis in total were just a tad bit ahead of USA, but that does not count what would be coming in from occupied UK, lost British colonies, and a fallen Soviet Empire. For that i would add in new ratio of 1.4/1 in favor of axis.

[idk_iam_swiss]

Thats assuming the axis are at their apex. This is the 1940 scenerio right? No one major power is beaten yet! If anything its in favor of the allies! there are waaay more of them then there are germans.

[maverick_76]

I agree with IL on the Europe as a lost cause scenario. That is why if the Allies are going to be comprised of UK, US, USSR, France, ANZAC and India (Joint power like AAP) and China (controlled by the US), then I think to be fair we should have an Axis victory if three powers are taken. Classically that would be France, UK (or Joint powers ANZAC and India) and Russia. If that happened the war would continue but only in the Pacific, but really for gameplay sake I think that should be considered an Axis victory. Since the Axis are going to be comprised of Italy, Germany and Japan, the allies would need a total victory so it would be fair that way: three capitals captured for either alliance equals a victory.

[idk_iam_swiss]

I hope the token symbol for france or anzac isnt going to be ANOTHER bulls-eye! Those are SOOO lame!

[Guest]

I’ll bet France is a bullseye but I have no clue about ANZAC

[maverick_76]

I would like to see a bullseye for ANZAC and a France flag or Red, White and Blue.

[Captain Beremir]

The new pacific map has them already. France is indeed a bullseye, blue in the middle surrounded by white surrounded by red. ANZAC is sort of a bullseye, with red on the inside, surrounded by white (and then maybe blue…but I can’t tell from the pics). So, your wish is not granted…

[maverick_76]

Darn….

[idk_iam_swiss]

eww whats up with larrys obsession with bulls-eyes? first britian…then italy…now france too?

[Guest]

Saves money on artwork.

[idk_iam_swiss]

Yeah i guess…the global game is going to look like a multi-colored archery range with all the bulls-eye possibilities…

[cannon fodder]

Any idea how the maps are supposed to be played together?  Are all the territories and sea zones represented?

I seem to remember people trying to put Europe and Pacific the first time?

[maverick_76]

Until we see a map of Europe we really won’t know. I’ve thought about trying to put together AAE and AAP, I think I might go and have another look at it.

[Guest]

Any idea how the maps are supposed to be played together?

Lay them side by side just like it was a 2 piece gameboard.

Any idea how the maps are supposed to be played together?

Yes.

[LuckyDay]

@maverick_76:

Until we see a map of Europe we really won’t know. I’ve thought about trying to put together AAE and AAP, I think I might go and have another look at it.

i’ve seen a map strip to print out to go between the boards to join them in Eurasia, but I think it’s easier to join them with the US in the middle.

[maverick_76]

Hmmm, interesting. I never thought about joining them that way.

[cannon fodder]

I meant to ask, will the map join together nicely without any disjointed territories or sea zones.

Is it going to be like a puzzle with perfect fit?

[idk_iam_swiss]

We dont know yet. The europe board is still being playtested. We will probably be able to figure it out once pacifc comes out

[Guest]

If the games are planned to be joined, I am sure they will match up along corresponding edges.

[maverick_76]

Yeah that has to be the case.