@The-Captain said in G40 Tank Buster & Ground Attack air unit:
due to the massive amount of G40 HRE games we currently play
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@angel said in Real value of units:
Here are my House Rules Naval unit stats:
Unit Cost A D M Special ability
DD 8 2 2 2 ASW
LCV 10 0 1 2 Can carry 1 FTR or 1 Tac Bomb
HC 12 3 3 3 Offshore Bomb @3, Move 4 spaces with NB boost during the NC Phase only
BC 15 4 3 2 Paired with BB def on @4, AA built in 1xd6 @1
CV 16 0 2 2 Can carry 2x FTR or Tac Bomb
BB 20 4 4 2 Can absorb 1 enemy hit, Offshore Bomb @4 and AA built in 2xd6 @1 per roundWhat you think about HC (Heavy cruiser) and BC (Battlecruiser) compared with other units?
No regular cruiser ? Just heavy and battle Cruisers ?
4 move HC ? Think notSo your 2 ship aa can also hit planes same time as there normal hit ? You get 2 hits ?
BB aa to strong. But waiting on your aa kill rule with normal roll. -
@general-6-stars A&A game cruisers classes are actually Heavy cruisers. It can be added Light cruiser too with following stats: cost 9 or10 /A2/D2/M3 and no special abilities. AAA hits with not normal hit @4 but 2xdices only at 1 .
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@angel said in Real value of units:
@general-6-stars A&A game cruisers classes are actually Heavy cruisers1d6 . It can be added Light cruiser too with following stats: cost 9 or10 /A2/D2/M3 and no special abilities. AAA hits with not normal hit @4 but 2xdices only at 1 .
No. When you roll for BB. You roll 1d6 dice for Normal roll @4. Then at same time you roll 2 D6 @1 for AA ?
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@general-6-stars Normal roll its only against enemy ships or shore bombardment, against air units you roll 2xD6 @1. AAA phase is at begining of the combat round. I am thinking to add AAA to Heavy cruiser too but only for one round, BC 2 rounds and BB 3 rounds of combat.
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So as the BB I can hit a ship and kill 2 planes in one round of combat. To strong
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If u want I can post what I would use as values in morning but up to you.
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@general-6-stars ya there is a possibility, but imagine if 2 BB are attacked by 6 planes. They can be destroyed so easy. Capital ships had a lot of AAA guns on deck. Yamato and Musashi were hit with over 6 dive bombs and 11 torpedos before they sunk. Yamato destroyed 76 enemy planes before it sunk. Sure, post it, its forum i want to see how other ppl think.
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Ya but 99 percent of battleships weren’t the Yamato.
Ok good luck
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Hhhmmm. No replies yet. How are all them Yamato Battleship values testing out ?
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@general-6-stars waiting for your reply? :P
“If u want I can post what I would use as values in morning but up to you.” <<your last message. -
Oh. Didn’t think you wanted to see them. I’ll post later today
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Try this.
BB C18 AD@4 AA1d6@1 SH@4 M2 2 hits Boosts BC +1 on D
BC C14 A@4 D@3/4 AA1d6@1 M2
HC C10 AD@3 SH@3 M3
DD C8 AD@2 M2
SS C7 A@2 D@1 M2
AC C16 A@0 D@2 2 hits
EC C8 A@0 D@1For BB and BC roll 2 dice. 1 for regular hit & 1 for AA shot.
You should reduce costs of planes since now you have ship AA shots.
Stg. Bomber C11 A@4 D@2 M6 SBR 1d6
Fighter C9 A@3 D@4
Tac Bomber C8 AD@2 Can pick target first round only.These values give the Cruiser ( in your case HC ) and Tac bombers worth buying in game now.
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@general-6-stars hmm your system is good, i think that HC should have AA shot too.
There are nations with low IPC, so they cant afford capital ships. imagine with only 1 plane you can destroy their entire navy without resistance.- Raise price for HC to 12 but add AA shot, in that case BC should go C15 IPC.
- AC, HC and BC roll 1 D6 per round, and BB roll 2x D6 per round, AC can be same as BB. They had a lot AA guns too.
- The Aircrafts cost remains the same as original, Tac bomber can be used only on land or coastal territories, and add new aircraft as carrier dive bomber/torpedo for naval use with reduces price, which can be used only at sea/ocean.
I saw this house rule somewhere, i think it was on topic for Global 1943 House rules
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No on BB with 2 D6. The cruiser was the plane killer. BB only used aa mostly for defense. If u add the HC aa then u are going to kill to many planes by ship.
Think your going over board nowI posted my thoughts. Yes in my games only AC & EC can hit planes and transports to.
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@general-6-stars We are just exchanging thoughts. Thanks ill implement some of your rules in my game.
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Give credit where due. Good luck
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