Maginot Line

[Imperious Leader]

My ideas have nothing to do with “historical” fixes to AA. I am talking about making more choices for players to find a counter to strategies that allow for this type of thing because the RULES ALLOW IT, EVEN IF THEY SHOULD NOT. I am appealing to shorten the game and cut out all these misfit raids where double and triple income collection over the same piece of real estate occurs and bogs the game in silly battles. I want a real invasion where once it occurs its huge because likely, it will succeed and the enemy will have no counter and the game will end sooner. The extra pieces bought because of double collection lead to more pieces, which means more battles need to be resolved.

This is a game about 1940, when the french had a Maginot line which must have some rule to account for it, while the Germans have a Siegfried line, where Singapore and Sevastopol are fortresses. Its not for the sake of historical realism, but it is for the sake of making a game that has some connection with the events its said to represent.

[Emperor_Taiki]

@Imperious:

This is a game about 1940, when the french had a Maginot line which must have some rule to account for it, while the Germans have a Siegfried line, where Singapore and Sevastopol are fortresses. Its not for the sake of historical realism, but it is for the sake of making a game that has some connection with the events its said to represent.

I agree, A&A isnt a simulation, but if it dosnt have a blockhouse peice it has less connection to the accual events

[Guest]

Is Larry still considering the blockhouse piece?

[WILD BILL]

The last post I saw from Larry on his sight blockhouse is out. Could be a cost thing come down from the powers that be. IL is willing to go toe to toe all 15 rounds so it could happen (very thin chance). If the blockhouse piece doesn’t make it maybe just a control marker type disc could be adopted for the global game rules to keep cost down. I would be ok with that. Keep up the fight!

[Guest]

Well maybe he could have an otional rules section. We wont need the pieces since we can get them from FMG.

[WILD BILL]

I can’t see the chimps allowing Larry to make official rules for other companies (they consider competition) to make such a thing. Just look what they did to triple A. Maybe they will put out some kind of expansion pack of there own later (doubtful). It would be cool to have official LH rules and new sculpts like heavy tanks and tech upgraded units etc. It would also be cool to include some logistic stuff like tankers, oil rigs, and merchant ships to protect. The new map for AA40 could be a corner stone for the future. The chimps should take advantage of it and produce their own expansion sets for AA40 as they do for their other games. If they don’t be assured someone will, but it won’t be endorsed by LH.

FMG is already working on new sculpts for AA games, but now with AA40 just around the corner they should IMO (unfortunately) :-( delay it so they can bring in more units that a larger map will allow for. Of coarse such a project takes a long time so FMG’s time table may fit this anyway as I have not followed their progress closely.

[Imperious Leader]

yea thats true FMG will put a rocket up the chimps and get them moving because they now have competition.

[Guest]

The only reaction that we will likely see out of those chimps is them trying to shut down FMG

[Imperious Leader]

They cant. Nobody can shut down another business for making WW2 pieces…unless they call it Axis and Allies and don’t pay a licensee fee to use the name. If they call it whatever else…they are totally free to do it.

[Guest]

TripleA didn’t use the words Axis and Allies.

[maverick_76]

Yeah but they were using the board and rules and all of that stuff that is under the copyright infringement rules. Making pieces that don’t look exactly like the sculpts from AA is not covered under the law. Think of universal remotes, they can run almost any TV but are not infringing because they are not made for a specific thing. Those sculpts by FMG can be used for any WWII game.

[Imperious Leader]

yes thats what they did. They referred to their “product” as an AA clone of sorts. All that language needs to go

[Guest]

Well I wish they would hurry up and do it. I miss Triple A. :-(

[crsluggo]

So, with the game coming out next week, and review copies in the hands of influential individuals, I must ask the question. What have they done concerning the Maginot Line & other fortifications like Eben Emael, & Gibraltar?

[SilverAngelSurfer]

Nothing much really…

[crsluggo]

That’s too bad. Especially considering the fact the Germans were forced to either outflank or overrun these bastions in order to conquer Western Europe. It’s unfortunate that they don’t seem to care about the actual events that inspired the game.