Scenario B would be correct. The rules specifically say that while it is legal to onload troops onto friendly transports, they must onload on your turn, and may only be offloaded on your next turn. The U.K may not offload the troops for you or you may not hop scotch using a transport.
Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2)
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@lennardf Not Me, but My opponent eventually Saw the light though!!!😁
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@Nolimit I think your interpretation is correct.
Sub surprise strikes happen before the main combat rounds
Destroyers prevent surprise strikesSo in this case the defender’s side has a DD so the attacking sub does not get a surprise strike, but the attacker’s side does not have a DD, so the defending sub will surprise strike
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/13666/submarine-alpha-2-rules/2
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Yep surfer
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Tried searching and all I get is “No Matches Found” lol
Is a transport considered a surface warship for the Italian Mediterranean Objective
Thanks
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@barnee Nope. A warship = surface vessel with attack value. Not sure where this is in the rules so if you want to wait for someone more proficient in rules to weigh in, I understand.
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@barnee But you can improve your search results by looking in “Titles and Posts” rather than just the default “Titles”. Several posts describe warships.
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@barnee said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):
Tried searching and all I get is “No Matches Found” lol
Is a transport considered a surface warship for the Italian Mediterranean Objective
Thanks
Searching the PDF-rulebooks is easier. While there are many mentions of the fact in the rulebook, the most clear definiton is given on page 31 Europe 1940.2, unit profiles, sea units:
“For the sake of these rules, the following are surface warships: battleships, carriers, cruisers, and destroyers. Transports are not warships. Submarines are warships, but they are not surface warships.”
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@panther said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):
“For the sake of these rules, the following are surface warships: battleships, carriers,
cruisers, and destroyers. Transports are not warships. Submarines are warships, but they are not surface warships.”Edit
Yes this is what I was missing. I went to the Objectives
• 5 IPCs if there are no Allied surface warships in the Mediterranean sea (sea zones 92 through 99). Theme:
Propaganda and strategic advantageI surprise myself to this day by missing the obvious lol
Still don’t know why my search didn’t return a result lol
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@barnee A reasonable improvement to the rules would be:
if there are no Allied surface warships (battleships, carriers,
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P Panther forked this topic on
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I can’t find the rule(s) that tell about:
When a unit of one ally is on another ally’s transport - can the ground unit amphibiously assault from the ally’s transport when it is his turn?
If so, can the defender scramble against it? If so, what if the attacker has no naval or air units in the zone to support it? Does the defending fighter stop the amphibious assault? Surely it doesn’t destroy anything… (the offloading ground unit or the ally’s transport)?Thanks - somebody asked me and we weren’t sure, and now it’s applicable in my game. Seems like it wouldn’t even be a very rare situation…
For anyone reading, I understand there may be a house rule for “balanced mod 4”, but I am playing “balanced mod 3” and I believe it uses the 2nd edition rulebook for this situation.I scoured the 2nd edition rulebook in what I thought were all the applicable sections, and I couldn’t figure out how to apply them to amphibious assaults from ally’s transports - I only saw the rule that says you can share aircraft carriers and transports with your allies… Thanks!!
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@gamerman01 The only rules in the Rulebook specific to this situation are on page 21 (Europe) where it talks about multi-national forces, saying that your units load onto and offload from your ally’s transport on your turn. The FAQ elaborates further, saying this:
Q. Say the United Kingdom launches an amphibious assault from a US transport without any supporting UK sea or air units in the sea zone, and then the defender scrambles. What happens?
A. In effect, nothing happens. The US transport doesn’t participate in the sea battle because it’s not the US’s turn. Since there are no attacking sea or air units, there is no sea battle. However, the sea zone can’t be cleared of defending combat units, so the amphibious assault can’t proceed. -
Perfect!!! We didn’t have the FAQ - that is the exact answer I needed - Thank you for the amazingly fast response, and can you point me to the FAQ please? For bonus points? Thanks again!!
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@gamerman01 Unfortunately, I’m not sure where, if anywhere, the FAQs are currently posted. They are scheduled to be posted on this site at some point, but it hasn’t happened yet.
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The links to the FAQ sheets in the respective game categories are broken, except for Pacific 1940 2nd edition. This one, for any reason, is still valid:
https://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/ah/AA_Pacific_1940_2nd_Edition_FAQ.pdf -
That’s only about 7 years old!
A lot of those questions are for global, including the allied transport one I asked recently, but yeah maybe we don’t have some of them yet for Europe - thanks!! -
But it is the latest one that ever has been published. There has been one for Europe 1940.2, too, but the link is broken, as AH failed to include the FAQ-sheets when they relaunched their site.
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Page 14 explains with bullet points your options when you start your turn with enemy surface ships in your zone.
One bullet point says you can leave, load units, and come back for combat.
Must you have a transport that can go load units, or can your warship(s) leave the zone and come back in a combat move in order to establish a zone or two to retreat to?
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@gamerman01 said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):
can your warship(s) leave the zone and come back in a combat move in order to establish a zone or two to retreat to?
Yes, that is a perfectly legal move.
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Thank you :+1:
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