1 hit in sz111, OOL?
L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs feltmarskal (A+42) OOB
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Game History
Round: 12
Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Rostov 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Rostov Combat - Italians Battle in Rostov Italians attack with 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 mech_infantry Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber in Rostov, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the British and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Italians lost in Rostov Italians win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7 Casualties for Italians: 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Rostov to Yugoslavia 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Tunisia to 94 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from 97 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 95 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 94 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 artillery moved from Southern France to Northern Italy Place Units - Italians 1 transport placed in 97 Sea Zone 1 submarine placed in 95 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Southern Italy 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy 1 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0,17
Russians regular : 0,67
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I assumed no scramble in z110. If you wanted to scramble, we can redo the battle.
Game History
Round: 13
Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 carriers, 2 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda Germans take Vologda from Russians 1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Caucasus Germans take Rostov from Russians 4 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Russia 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 3 bombers moved from Novgorod to Volgograd 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Russia 3 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 3 armour moved from Ukraine to Tambov 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov 7 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov 8 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Tambov 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Tambov 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Caucasus 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Tambov Germans attack with 4 armour, 13 artilleries, 10 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 2 artilleries Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 13 artilleries, 10 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys in Tambov, round 2 : 12/35 hits, 11,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries in Tambov, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Tambov Germans win, taking Tambov from Russians with 4 armour, 13 artilleries, 10 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Russians: 2 artilleries Battle in Russia Germans attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia Germans captures 14PUs while taking Russians capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Caucasus Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Caucasus, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians, 1 armour owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Volgograd Germans attack with 2 armour, 3 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys; Russians defend with 1 factory_minor Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 3 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 4,33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits 3 mech_infantrys owned by the British, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Volgograd Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 2 armour, 3 bombers and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for British: 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun, 8 armour and 41 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Tambov 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Bryansk 1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Bryansk 3 bombers moved from Volgograd to Bryansk 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 fighters moved from Novgorod to Western Germany 1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to 112 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 5 submarines and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 2 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk 2 fighters moved from Volgograd to Bryansk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk 2 fighters moved from Russia to Ukraine Place Units - Germans 2 carriers, 2 fighters and 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Western Germany 3 infantry placed in Ukraine 3 infantry placed in Novgorod Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 64 PUs; end with 78 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 103 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 0,67
Germans regular : -0,17
British regular : 0,33
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@trulpen
feltmarskal.tsvg is at the begnining of germany tun -
@feltmarskal Sorry, I’ll fixit right away.
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Game History
Round: 13
Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 carriers, 2 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda Germans take Vologda from Russians 1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Caucasus Germans take Rostov from Russians 4 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Russia 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 3 bombers moved from Novgorod to Volgograd 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Russia 3 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 3 armour moved from Ukraine to Tambov 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov 7 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov 8 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Tambov 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Tambov 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Caucasus 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Tambov Germans attack with 4 armour, 13 artilleries, 10 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 2 artilleries Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 13 artilleries, 10 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys in Tambov, round 2 : 12/35 hits, 11,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries in Tambov, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Tambov Germans win, taking Tambov from Russians with 4 armour, 13 artilleries, 10 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Russians: 2 artilleries Battle in Russia Germans attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia Germans captures 14PUs while taking Russians capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Caucasus Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Caucasus, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians, 1 armour owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Volgograd Germans attack with 2 armour, 3 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys; Russians defend with 1 factory_minor Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 3 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 4,33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits 3 mech_infantrys owned by the British, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Volgograd Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 2 armour, 3 bombers and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for British: 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun, 8 armour and 41 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Tambov 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Bryansk 1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Bryansk 3 bombers moved from Volgograd to Bryansk 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 fighters moved from Novgorod to Western Germany 1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to 112 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 5 submarines and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 2 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk 2 fighters moved from Volgograd to Bryansk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk 2 fighters moved from Russia to Ukraine Place Units - Germans 2 carriers, 2 fighters and 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Ukraine 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 1 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 64 PUs; end with 78 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 103 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 0,67
Germans regular : -0,17
British regular : 0,33
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Just checking that everything’s alright?
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@trulpen
I give up.
I was behind from the very beginning.
I will look back on this game as the first game i played with one of the better players. -
F feltmarskal referenced this topic on
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Thank you for playing and being patient with my unexcpected abscence. I hope the game was still valuable and that there will be knowledge obtained from the experience. I’ll try to look at the game and perhaps give some input.
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There’s a lot to look at, but atleast I can comment on the bid/start. When investing 2 inf, 1 art in China, I would suggest to actually place 1-2 fig for Russia in Moscow and/or Stalingrad.
DOW between Russia and Japan is rather inconsequential in OOB, so Russia might as well hit the trigger from the start. That way Yunnan will be secured for China from the bat with 1 inf, 1 tac and 2-3 fig extra. This is a very serious issue for Japan and is key for the strategy of KJF.
Subs for Britain is also a great bid, but I think the above provides even more impact on the game.
2 inf, 1 art, 2 fig equals 30 IPC, so that leaves 12 IPC for 1 sub in either z91, 106 or 111, 1 inf on NG (if allowed) and then another inf perhaps in Sudan or whatever.
I believe doing Taranto is a weaker move actually than doing Gibastion or falling back to z81. It does take out a big part of the italian fleet, but also sacrifices the british fleet. There’ll likely be a better opportunity to sink the italians at a somewhat later stage.
Allowing Axis to control Gibraltar is a serious draw-back for the Allies. It blocks movements from the Atlantic to the Med and allows Italy a secure NO. Also, z91 is a key square for allied fleet maneuvres and not controlling the harbour in Gibraltar is a clear nuiscance. US don’t want to have to build and protect a harbour, and likely also an air-field, in Morocco.
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