Hopefully the last change there.
Trulpen (X) - Martin (L+40) L21 OOB Playoffs Round 1
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@trulpen triplea_38002_2ANZAC.tsvg
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 factory_minor and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 fighter moved from Java to Shan State Combat - ANZAC Battle in Shan State ANZAC attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry ANZAC roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Shan State 1 fighter owned by the ANZAC retreated Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 fighter moved from Shan State to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Queensland to Celebes 1 fighter moved from Queensland to Java 1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland Place Units - ANZAC 1 factory_minor placed in Queensland 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 16 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 0,33 ANZAC regular : -1,33 -
@trulpen triplea_38002_2France.tsvg
Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 destroyer moved from 58 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya 1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland Turn Complete - French -
Game History
Round: 3
Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 fighter and 10 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 91 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Norway to 123 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in 101 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine British defend with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport Germans win, taking 101 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for British: 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport Battle in 123 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 105 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone EDIT: Germans undo move 4. EDIT: 1 destroyer moved from 105 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone EDIT: Germans undo move 3. EDIT: Germans undo move 4. EDIT: 1 battleship moved from 105 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone EDIT: Germans undo move 3. EDIT: 1 destroyer moved from 105 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 bomber moved from 123 Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Eastern Poland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Baltic States 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia 3 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria 3 armour moved from Greece to Romania 2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland 4 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 artillery moved from Poland to Baltic States 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 artillery moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 4 armour and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Poland 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 1 mech_infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Germany EDIT: 1 destroyer moved from 105 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 artillery moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 artillery moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Baltic States Place Units - Germans 10 mech_infantrys placed in Germany 1 fighter placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 42 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs -
Strangely enough Russia’s NO looks to be active. However, they’re at war with Italy and there’s an Axis warship (german des) in z125. What I remember from the rules, that’s enough to cancel the NO.
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@trulpen said in Trulpen (X) - Martin (L+40) L21 OOB Playoffs Round 1:
Strangely enough Russia’s NO looks to be active. However, they’re at war with Italy and there’s an Axis warship (german des) in z125. What I remember from the rules, that’s enough to cancel the NO.
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I noticed this as well in some games. Actually russia is at war in Europe, Check. 125 is not free of axis war ships, but free of enemy war ships. My rules say „free of axis war ships“, so trippleA would be incorrect here. I would also be interested to understand what is the correct rule here.Good luck to you both!
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@trulpen triplea_38002_3rus.tsvg
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 2 artilleries and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland 1 fighter moved from Belarus to Baltic States 1 bomber moved from Russia to Eastern Poland 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Hopei 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Kiangsi Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kiangsi Combat - Russians Battle in Hopei Russians attack with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Hopei Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Hopei, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei Russians win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Kiangsi Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kiangsi, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kiangsi, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kiangsi, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kiangsi, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Kiangsi Russians win, taking Kiangsi from Japanese with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Germans defend; Italians defend with 1 armour Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Baltic States Russians win, taking Baltic States from Italians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Battle in Eastern Poland Russians attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Germans defend; Italians defend with 1 armour Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Eastern Poland, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Eastern Poland Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Italians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Non Combat Move - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Bessarabia: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Ukraine: 1 infantry EDIT: Changing ownership of Bessarabia from Italians to Russians EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers could not land in Baltic States and were removed 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber could not land in Eastern Poland and were removed 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Russia 1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Russia 1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Archangel 1 artillery moved from Belarus to Bryansk 3 artilleries moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 3 artilleries moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 1 aaGun moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 1 aaGun moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 2 aaGuns moved from Belarus to Bryansk 2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia Russians take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies 6 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 11 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk 4 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 aaGun and 11 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Dzavhan 2 infantry moved from Tsagaan Olom to Central Mongolia 2 infantry moved from Central Mongolia to Dzavhan 2 infantry moved from Central Mongolia to Chahar 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsi to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Kiangsi to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus Place Units - Russians 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 3 infantry placed in Ukraine 2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 37 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -1,00 Japanese regular : 0,00 Russians regular : -3,50 -
I think there is some interesting constellation now in this game :-) Italy is at war with Russia, but Germany is not. And Russia just refused to declare war on Germany.
The rules clearly say “When the Soviet Union Is at War in Europe” - I assume that when the game was developed, the game designers could not imagine that Russia is at war with Italy but not with Germany.
I interpret the rules the same way as you. I will edit 5 IPC less income for Russia and re-post.
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@trulpen Russians and Germans standing hand in hand in Eastern Europe, celebrating Christmas together :-)
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Yes, that’s a bit crazy. 😁
What I remember from the rules though is that it’s not possible to attack land territories (interestingly it’s different for sea zones) containing neutral units. There would need to be a DOW first.
I’m pretty sure about this, but will have to look it up.
If it’s correct I’ll allow for you to change the moves in EU (or those that are impacted).
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Think I found the rules (p. 15 Europe, p.14 Pacific):
Powers Not at War with One Another
When two powers on opposite sides are not yet
at war with one another, they operate under some
special conditions and restrictions.
[…]
Combat: A power can’t attack a territory controlled
by or containing units belonging to a power with
which it is not at war. If a power at war attacks a sea
zone containing units belonging to both a power with
which it’s already at war and a power with which it’s
not at war, the latter power’s units are ignored. Those
units won’t participate in the battle in any way, and a
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@myygames said in Trulpen (X) - Martin (L+40) L21 OOB Playoffs Round 1:
Lurking in here, Hope you dont mind ;-)
Feel free to follow the game.
@Martin It’s a rather cheezy maneuver with Italy, but unfortunately the battles on E Poland and the Baltic have to be cancelled.
I’m not sure how different moves will impact the east, but I’ll wait for you to adjust the position further before moving with Japan.
You now have 4 inf and the fig and sb that may move during NCM instead.
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You can of course change other NCMs as well as placement of units.
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Ah, yes, also if you wanted to then DOW on Germany so the same procedure won’t be repeated, just declare that here and I’ll DOW with Germany when the turn comes. Changing states of war by edit might lead to different problems further on.
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@trulpen darn, I felt like an innovative pioneer and turned out to be an illegal alien…
Thank you for the clarification. Two TrippleA-bugs in one turn is a record, when I also count the Russian National Objective.
I will now have a look at the non-combat movements.
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Sorry for that. It’s not an easy rule to spot.
I did the preliminary changes, and can do J now. Don’t think there’s any real impact between the two arenas. You can tell me how you want the setup and I can adjust during J NCM or if you want do it during US.
Or if you prefer I can wait a little while more.
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@trulpen please go ahead and do Japan. My planes land in Moscow. The 1 inf from Novgorod will stay in Novgorod, the other marches to Archangel.
1 in from Belarus will stay in Belarus, and the other goes to Bryansk.
No DOW from Russia.
Thank you for your help.
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@trulpen I think the rulebook is a nightmare. It helps when you can search a PDF. To quickly find something special in the paper book is sherely impossible…
I will be able to play the US, only in the evening. Until then, I will pray to the god of dice :-)
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@martin said in Trulpen (X) - Martin (L+40) L21 OOB Playoffs Round 1:
@trulpen please go ahead and do Japan. My planes land in Moscow. The 1 inf from Novgorod will stay in Novgorod, the other marches to Archangel.
1 in from Belarus will stay in Belarus, and the other goes to Bryansk.
No DOW from Russia.
Thank you for your help.
To clarify (you can always change things later if I misunderstood something), you built 3 inf in Leningrad. As I understand it you want 1 inf there. The other 2 would then be built in Moscow.
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@trulpen no, I build three in Novgorod and will have 4 in total. But I will have a look later.
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