Well based on history for game as usual the Rat Patrol for US did not exist. It was the UK Long Range Desert Rats. They did exist in 40.
Here we will place 2 Desert Rats vehicles in Egypt on setup. Here’s the values and rules for them. Of course maybe tweaked.
C0 A4 D2 M2.
Cannot buy in game. Once killed there gone.
Can move into and out of the Sahara desert.
Gets a first strike shot if attacking alone or with another desert rat unit and defender is removed with out a return shot.
Gets a first strike shot attacking with other UK units and or Allie units. Defenders choice of casualty with a no return defend shot.
If they miss shot on attack the defender gets a defense shot. If defender misses desert rat, it can retreat to the desert or other territory.
They can only attack the northern territories of Africa. Morocco- Egypt.
They can travel the whole desert and come out and attack any Northern Territory. Traveling across the desert does not count as a move.
They can damage an air base. Roll a d6 for damage.
If the desert rats do a TSA on an airbase with enemy units there,
the enemy units would get a -2 on there defense rolls based on
desert rat speed. If they survive then each rat can do a 1d6 roll for
damage on air base.
So like they can pop out of desert or Egypt into Tobruk and hit
airbase if they survive and then move back into desert or another
land territory.
Cannot control a territory.
@general-6-stars YES! You need a Rat Patrol Rule. I’m watching that show right now.
@imperious-leader said in General 6 Stars 1941 Global War Game:
@general-6-stars YES! You need a Rat Patrol Rule. I’m watching that show right now.
US didn’t have these in real war. Unless your just looking for game play or fantasy.
The 3D Print play pieces look great.
The rules seem okay for an initial play testing.
Naturally, the Historical scale & size of the Desert Rat formations must be ignored in this game play - since the number of Commonwealth troops that served within this unit was limited, compared to the size of fx a German Panzer Division etc.
I’ll look forward to your play testing results.
Sorry captain. These are not the 3d pieces. These are from the AA miniatures.
IF the 3d pieces don’t work out I’ll paint these UK and Place 2 in Egypt only. At least I will have a couple pieces that can go into and out of the desert. If I get to picky on looks I’ll get the GHQ SAS jeep and or Chevy 30 cwt LRDG truck. USA rat patrol is just for fantasy play or game play if somebody wants it.
@general-6-stars Bull. Long Range Desert Group is real
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Desert_Group
It is true that the scale of this isn’t Division or Army Group level, but half of AA isn’t that scale anyway
@imperious-leader said in General 6 Stars 1941 Global War Game:
@general-6-stars Bull. Long Range Desert Group is real
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Desert_Group
I’m talking about Americans.
According to UK reports the USA didn’t have rat patrols. Unless u got a document showing they did I’ll look into it.
Yea, you’re right about the scale issue.
“Yo ! We hittin that SPA ? !!! Or Rommel” ? !
@general-6-stars LOL !
Got a game this Saturday Jan. 15 at 8 am central time and will be live streamed on twitch. Type in ssgen69.
Will be testing the Long Range Desert Rats with 2 units starting in Egypt.
Only unit that can go in and out of Sahara desert.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1264428362
Heres the vid for yesterday’s game. Report later today or morning.
Some Generals
Good to see the Veterans again:+1:
It would be amazing, if we could come to the States - and visit you for gaming.
Wouldn’t that be something:+1:
In the same way as we have players from the Netherlands coming to us in Denmark.
Ya it would be cool if you came to US.
As I mentioned before I’m only 30 mins from Milwaukee and 60 mins from Chicago.
Plus barnee only 5-6 hours away from me.
Plenty of motels 2 miles away on 94 interstate hwy.
Allies won the game. Germany tried a different route and got spanked a bit and mother russia showed up with her bears !
The long range desert rats was a nice piece to have as far as a small threat from the desert and a nice piece to have as a first strike unit alone or with own troops based on it can pick the kill shot. Also it has a chance to damage a airbase in Tobruk on turn 1 or later if Italy doesn’t leave enough troops there.
Based on history both sides had major AB in Tobruk anyway.
This is a game report from Saturdays game were the allies won.
Germany went a different route this game and was going south and also helping Italy more with German planes taking out the UK Med fleet. Based on reports Germany ended up losing to many figs early in game too probably.
He lost Finland early but got back and even lost Romania which cost him 11 icps ( oil ) and Mother Russia got that gain for a turn which is very nice for them. SO more resources have to go back and recover those areas.
Germany also got spanked a bit going after the 2 UK fleets around London turn 1 and put a damper on things also there.
US did operation Torch again and took Morocco and Gib. But with no UK fleet in Med they ended up going to Western France next turn. Italy ended up making some decent money to help Germany a bit but just to much loses to recover.
Germany did try a desperation last ditch effort to do sea lion but failed.
Pacific side japan started out good and got money islands for more income and then US had to do something and boldly moved ALL his naval fleet into the middle of Dutch islands of Sumatra, Borneo.
Did take back those islands along with Singapore. On Japans next turn he moved all his fleet to attack with planes that US fleet. Did kill all ships but US naval planes retreated to Java.
Then for the next 3 turns just bought Fast Carriers so his planes had a place to land and pushed into Asia coast and could of taken Hong Kong but based on axis victory points didn’t need to yet.
I’ll post 2 pics of game on last turn of game.
There will be some tweaks to setup based on Japan has so much to do and can’t do it and need to delay the US kind a some on first turn.
Perfect,
I’ll start planning.
We are already 2-5 players who would like to come.
I’ll send you pm when I know more:+1:
We would need to start training with your 1941 game during this spring and summer.
@the-captain said in General 6 Stars 1941 Global War Game:
Perfect,
I’ll start planning.
We are already 2-5 players who would like to come.
I’ll send you pm when I know more:+1:
We would need to start training with your 1941 game during this spring and summer.
Oh wow that would be super sweet ! Ya let me know.
Here’s the end of turn 6 when the axis conceded.
@general-6-stars
How long time does it take for you guys to play 6 rounds?
