21L PTV max334 (X+14) vs simone33 (Allies)

[simon33]

oh and happy new year to you

[max334]

can you help us with a rule. My opponent attacks a lone DD with 2 subs and 4 ftrs. I scramble 3 ftrs to help defend the DD. Can my opponent assign ftr hits to his subs because of my DD. The rules say the DD has to be friendly to the attacking ftrs

[max334]

@max334

[simon33]

Look at the words after “unless”.

[max334]

@simon33 yes, but my DD is not friendly to his ftrs

[simon33]

@max334 said in 21L PTV max334 (X+14) vs simone33 (Allies):

@simon33 yes, but my DD is not friendly to his ftrs

The DD is friendly to the planes which hit, allowing subs to be taken as casualties.

Perfectly clear.

[max334]

@simon33 so funny… Sovietcat and I think its perfectly clear the way we see it and you and Nikola think its perfectly clear the exact opposite way

[ArtofWar1947]

@max334
The lone friendly DD allows the 3 friendly fighters to detect the enemy subs. Therefore, friendly fighter hits can be assigned to the enemy subs.

[Sovietishcat]

@ArtofWar1947 But the dd is ally, it should not be friendly to axis?

[Sovietishcat]

I get it for defence, but not for attack

[ArtofWar1947]

@sovietishcat

It does does not matter whether 2 subs and 4 fighters attack a DD and 3 fighter or vice versa. The DD enables fighters to detect subs and hit them.

[simon33]

@max334 said in 21L PTV max334 (X+14) vs simone33 (Allies):

@simon33 so funny… Sovietcat and I think its perfectly clear the way we see it and you and Nikola think its perfectly clear the exact opposite way

Well look at it this way, if you think you should be able to choose to hit the fighters with your planes, where does it stop? Why not be able to chose to hit the fighters with you DD? Or are you perhaps saying that the subs should be taken last as casualties which would be a similarly large change to the game dynamic.

[max334]

@artofwar1947 …even if they dont want to. :( I got it and given that, I will not scramble

[ArtofWar1947]

@max334

Yes, the owner of units gets to choose which units are lost. So, if I want to knock an opponents war ships and transport and he a numerous subs, I 'll send air but not a DD so that all my hits go on my target–the surface ships. It doies not seem right, but sometimes having a DD can work to your disadvantage.