21L PTV max334 (X+14) vs simone33 (Allies)

[simon33]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 26

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.2.0

Game History

Round: 26

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 3 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 armour, 10 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        8 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
        10 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
        1 artillery and 23 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vyborg
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Tambov
        2 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Tambov
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Tambov
        1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Gorky

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Gorky
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Gorky, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Gorky, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Gorky
            Russians win, taking Gorky from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Finland
            Russians attack with 1 armour, 10 artilleries and 3 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 10 artilleries and 3 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 6/14 hits, 4.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
            Russians win, taking Finland from Germans with 1 armour, 10 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Samara
            Russians attack with 8 artilleries and 20 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 8 artilleries and 20 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 6/28 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Samara
            Russians win, taking Samara from Japanese with 8 artilleries and 19 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Tambov
            Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 2 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Tambov, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tambov
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Tambov, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Tambov, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tambov
            Russians win, taking Tambov from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
        Battle in Vyborg
            Russians attack with 1 artillery and 23 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 23 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 3/24 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg
            Russians win, taking Vyborg from Germans with 1 artillery and 23 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 aaGun moved from Norway to Finland
        2 aaGuns moved from Leningrad to Vyborg
        1 fighter moved from Gorky to Russia
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Tambov to Russia
        1 armour moved from Russia to Stalingrad

    Place Units - Russians
        3 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 23 PUs
        Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 25 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 31 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.33
Germans regular : -1.33
Russians regular : -1.00

Savegame

[simon33]

Assumed no scramble to Finland or Vyborg.

Want to see what Japan does.

[max334]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 26

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.2.0

Game History

Round: 26

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 8 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Novgorod
              Japanese take Vologda from Russians
        1 fighter moved from Malaya to Java
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 63 Sea Zone to Java
        1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Siam to 132 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java
        1 battleship moved from 38 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
              Italians take Ethiopia from Americans
        1 armour moved from Ethiopia to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
        1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
        1 armour moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
        1 artillery moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
        1 infantry moved from South West Africa to Rhodesia

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Java
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            ANZAC defend with 1 artillery
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery in Java, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Java
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery in Java, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
            Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 artillery

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 63 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 59 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Timguska to Urals
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
        1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Wake Island to Guam
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Guam
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Wake Island
        1 submarine moved from 72 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        3 infantry placed in French Indo China
        3 infantry placed in Malaya
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
        1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Japan
        1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 7 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 73 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5
        Japanese collect 58 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 58 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
        Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
        Objective Japanese 7 Vital Forward Bases: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -2.00
ANZAC regular : 0.33

Savegame

[max334]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 26

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.2.0

Game History

Round: 26

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 8 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Novgorod
              Japanese take Vologda from Russians
        1 fighter moved from Malaya to Java
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 63 Sea Zone to Java
        1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Siam to 132 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java
        1 battleship moved from 38 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
              Italians take Ethiopia from Americans
        1 armour moved from Ethiopia to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
        1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
        1 armour moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
        1 artillery moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
        1 infantry moved from South West Africa to Rhodesia

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Java
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            ANZAC defend with 1 artillery
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery in Java, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Java
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery in Java, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
            Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 artillery

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 63 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 59 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Timguska to Urals
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
        1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Wake Island to Guam
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Guam
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Wake Island
        1 submarine moved from 72 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        3 infantry placed in French Indo China
        3 infantry placed in Malaya
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
        1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Japan
        1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 7 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 73 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5
        Japanese collect 58 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 58 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
        Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
        Objective Japanese 7 Vital Forward Bases: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Japan: 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Soviet Far East: 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -2.00
ANZAC regular : 0.33

Savegame

[simon33]

@max334 said in 21L PTV max334 (X+14) vs simone33 (Allies):

@simon33 Can’t play today. And yes we can finish … I actually thought this game was finished many months ago, but you didn’t want to surrender.

I think you could have been right here.

Losing Egypt was a big blow and some other battles I should have won went against me. I will soon enough lose Leningrad then probably the middle east. Wasn’t too worried about South Africa even though it was a setback as the combination of Iraq and Egypt would probably ultimately overpower it, unless it went full turtle where I could just ignore it for a while. So it may not have been completely over months ago but I think it is now.

Thanks for the game.

[simon33]

Result posted.

That would get you into the playoffs for PtV if one person doesn’t participate in an 8 player circus.

[max334]

@simon33 Thank you for game and Happy New Year. How do i get into the playoffs?

[simon33]

I’m sure Gamerman01 will post something soon. He normally asks those interested to let him know and then sets up the matches.

[simon33]

oh and happy new year to you

[max334]

can you help us with a rule. My opponent attacks a lone DD with 2 subs and 4 ftrs. I scramble 3 ftrs to help defend the DD. Can my opponent assign ftr hits to his subs because of my DD. The rules say the DD has to be friendly to the attacking ftrs

[max334]

@max334

[simon33]

Look at the words after “unless”.

[max334]

@simon33 yes, but my DD is not friendly to his ftrs

[simon33]

@max334 said in 21L PTV max334 (X+14) vs simone33 (Allies):

@simon33 yes, but my DD is not friendly to his ftrs

The DD is friendly to the planes which hit, allowing subs to be taken as casualties.

Perfectly clear.

[max334]

@simon33 so funny… Sovietcat and I think its perfectly clear the way we see it and you and Nikola think its perfectly clear the exact opposite way

[ArtofWar1947]

@max334
The lone friendly DD allows the 3 friendly fighters to detect the enemy subs. Therefore, friendly fighter hits can be assigned to the enemy subs.

[Sovietishcat]

@ArtofWar1947 But the dd is ally, it should not be friendly to axis?

[Sovietishcat]

I get it for defence, but not for attack

[ArtofWar1947]

@sovietishcat

It does does not matter whether 2 subs and 4 fighters attack a DD and 3 fighter or vice versa. The DD enables fighters to detect subs and hit them.

[simon33]

@max334 said in 21L PTV max334 (X+14) vs simone33 (Allies):

@simon33 so funny… Sovietcat and I think its perfectly clear the way we see it and you and Nikola think its perfectly clear the exact opposite way

Well look at it this way, if you think you should be able to choose to hit the fighters with your planes, where does it stop? Why not be able to chose to hit the fighters with you DD? Or are you perhaps saying that the subs should be taken last as casualties which would be a similarly large change to the game dynamic.