PtV Nikola1975 (axis+6) vs Max334

[nikola1975]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 6

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

Game History

Round: 6

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 6 armour, 1 factory_minor, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Vyborg
        2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Rostov
        1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus
        1 armour moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus
        3 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Rostov
        1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 101 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Vyborg
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Northern Belarus
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Archangel
        3 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Leningrad to Vologda
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Vologda
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus
        1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda
        4 armour, 3 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl
        10 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Vologda
        1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        2 tactical_bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 122 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[nikola1975]

@nikola1975 Scramble to the Channel?

[max334]

@nikola1975 You brought 2 subs to the battle, but only hits from my DD can be assigned to your subs. Any hits from scrambling planes can only be assigned to your planes unless you bring your own DD to the battle. I think thats the rule…Is that your understanding as well?

[max334]

I think you just bring in subs. Great odds and you save your planes.

[max334]

@max334 maybe not great odds…but good odds…I guess thats 75%

[nikola1975]

@max334 Hm, you are right. Ok if I change 1 sub for 1 destroyer? And in that case, what will you do with fighters?

[nikola1975]

@max334 No, it is not right after all. Planes can hit subs if there is a destroyer there. So, I am staying with 2 subs as originally intended :)
Let me know if you are scrambling

[max334]

@nikola1975 t I’m looking on page 33 of the rule book and it says the DD has to be from your side (ie ‘destroyer friendly to the air units in the battle’).

[max334]

@nikola1975 Let me know what you want to send and I’ll decide on the scramble

[nikola1975]

@max334 2 subs. I tried to run the move offline, it killed the subs from the fighters. If you have a destroyer in the battle, you are able to hit the subs and the other side can chose them as casualties.

[max334]

@nikola1975 its a player enforced rule

[max334]

@max334 makes sense… planes cant hit subs

[max334]

do we hold for a decision from like a moderator or experienced player?

[nikola1975]

@max334 No, you are wrong:
https://axisallies.com/global-1940-second-edition-rules/

You can ask someone if you wish.

[max334]

Yes destroyers do change the situation but the destroyer has to be friendly to the air unit attacking.

[max334]

@max334 if you had to destroyer it would change the situation but you can’t use my destroyer to your advantage

[nikola1975]

@max334 Well, what I understand here is that air units require destroyer which is friendly to them. Your air units to have a destroyer that is friendly unit. Isn’t this saying so?

If you can find someone to ask, it would help, this is interesting case to know for the future.

[max334]

ok, I’ll ask simon33

[Sovietishcat]

@nikola1975 You have to bring a dd ( from your side ) to be able to hit enemy subs from your planes; even if Max has a dd. If your planes hit X2 and Max has only one dd, only the dd can be chosen for the casualty. You cannot use his dd for his advantage, Max should have the option to even submerge the subs because you are not bringing a dd.

[max334]

@sovietishcat thank you for helping with that