TGC (Allies) vs. VictoryFirst (Axis) Anniversary '41 - OoB, no bid


  • @victoryfirst

    What rules do you feel are not out-of-box rules?

    The only advice I feel may (or may not) help is to withhold serious attacks by Germany into the USSR after G1. Maybe if your preserve your strength until game turn 5ish - and coordinate these tank assaults with the Japanese that should be coming up at that time, it will be enough to overwhelm them.

    When I’m playing as the allies, I feel like I’m defeating the German attacks, then turning to face the Japanese. If they kicked off at the same time, I don’t feel sure what would happen.


  • @the_good_captain Hmm, that might be a good idea. That’s true, I have the feeling everytime that I messed up Germany a bit, but that Japan will hopefully come to the rescue.

    What I said didn’t really make sense as the rules we play with are OOB of course, but with OOB I meant the standard ‘axis favoured’ rules (with no’s without tech, without dardanelles closed without fighter interception). I think I’ll need a one day break to practice with a coordinated German-Japanese assault strategy.

    I also wanted to say is that I really like the games with you, and I appreciate your time and effort. I almost never play with someone, most games are solo. I’ve played like a 100 games of G40 solo, and just until round 3 against an opponent :) Playing against someone is the best learning tool for any game. Thinking your own strategies are unbeatable can quickly change if you play against pro!


  • @victoryfirst its hard to find players/opponents, even on this website. I am happy to play as many games as you like whenever you like even if there is a long hiatus. When I was putting “Classic” through its paces, I had a novel strategy - took it online here - got beat up a bunch and essentially told “you can’t play it that way” by folks who ‘knew better’. I went back to the drawing board, made some tweaks to my initial strategy and now its a (my) signature move. I was glad to play those fellows but was appalled at their reaction to someone presenting a different approach. I swore if/when the time came and the roles were reversed, I would not be critical of something new/unseen/unusual or otherwise “out of the box”.

    All this to say, if you stay on this strategy and make a tweak here or there - you may indeed have something that is quite competitive. And as you allude to, if it is competitive with the optional rules calibrated as we have them, I feel you’ll only have a much easier time if they are )calibrated differently in some other game you might play. =)

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    I am now playing a solo game, with a ten infantry build, and the Spread-out opening. I did the counter-attack strategy as the Russians. This looks awful for Germany, or is it a common position to be in?

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  • @victoryfirst I would call this “common” or “fairly common”, ya (although I can’t see the history to analyze how the attack went).

    Either way, if this happened to me:

    1. Italy/Germany needs to consolidate in East Poland immediately. That Italian tank is already in the wrong spot. We will be stronger than Russia in a few turns but until then, we need to preserve our strength and not lose core units. To that end, “Taking a knee” for a couple turns is totally okay. Send the Italian armor to East Poland. The Italian fighters is also available but is not necessary. I would have placed him in France but not a big deal for this example.

    2. On Germany’s turn we put every non-air piece we have into East Poland. The land defense now is 7 tanks (1 Italian), 4 infantry, 2 artillery, and we should throw in one German fighter to seal the deal. To add more fighters is overkill, so I wouldn’t.

    3. You’re flanks might look empty but USSR tanks are out of position to blitz Ukraine so he will have to send in an infantry to secure it - which is good for Germany. And in this case, since the transport is still alive, I might sealift a single german infantry into Baltic states to disallow the blitz - or ignore it as its only 1 IPC and we can possibly blitz it back later. I might sea lift a single infantry in Karelia.

    Lot’s of possibilities here as Germany - looks exciting imo. I would happily pick it up here as the Axis or we could switch sides in our next game. Anyway, thanks for posting this. This was really fun to pick-a-part.


  • @the_good_captain @the_good_captain said in TGC (Allies) vs. VictoryFirst (Axis) Anniversary '41 - OoB, no bid:

    Lot’s of possibilities here as Germany - looks exciting imo. I would happily pick it up here as the Axis or we could switch sides in our next game. Anyway, thanks for posting this. This was really fun to pick-a-part.

    Do you mean by this you wanted to play out from this position? It would be nice if I was a native English speaker (which I am not :) but this I don’t understand :) What does ‘to pick-a-part’ mean? Never heard of that!

    Anyway, I continued the game and it is now round five. I just saw your post now but I found it funny I naturally did the moves you mentioned. I thought the only way of surviving is to stack up Eastern Poland, and it worked! (As the Allies, I tried to play like you as best as I can, and it was pretty effective as well. I used to land in France every time as the Western Allies, but landing on the Baltic coast is way more effective!

    Oh it says this error when I try to load the picture: Something went wrong while parsing server response

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    Here is the save file if you want to take a look at it!
    2021-12-24-World-War-II-v3-1941.tsvg


  • @victoryfirst ah, my bad - to “pick apart” means to “analyze in detail” in this context. I downloaded the save file and looked at it. Yep, I think Germany/Italy are in a much stronger position and waiting to coordinate with the Japanese.


  • @the_good_captain Ok, I think I’ve practised enough. I am ready to take up the fight with you again! I would like to play the Axis one more time, and then I think it’s best to switch sides (four times in a row Axis gets monotonous!)

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