@surfer said in L25 Avner (L+9) vs Surfer (X) BM4:
@Avner Still need your email to put into the game to get dice rolls
ok i’ll put it in the allied turn
2020 Championship: axis-dominion vs ksmckay (+22)
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This match is to be followed as a Champions League final :)
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@jdow Saving the anzac tranny isnt a given - where can it go and stay safe?
the rest of what you are saying is true of all J3 DOWs. So one is welcome to debate J2 vs J3 but this is a specific J3 opening and I think you would be hard pressed to come up with a better J3.
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@ksmckay if you ARE THAT worried about this why dont you put two armor and two mech in Kasakstan and 2 fighters and 1 tac in moscow round 1? instead you run away from szechewan with your tail between your legs?
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@oysteilo sounds like you have it all figured out, not certain why you bothered asking a question, I’m sorry for responding.
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.1.0
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Western United States to Central United States 1 bomber moved from Western United States to Eastern United States 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Guam to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 26 Sea Zone 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone 2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to Western United States Place Units - Americans 1 carrier placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 54 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei 7 infantry moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan Combat - Chinese Battle in Suiyuyan Chinese attack with 7 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 7 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Suiyuyan Chinese win, taking Suiyuyan from Japanese with 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Hopei Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei retreated to Hopei Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Hopei to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Suiyuyan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China UK_Pacific take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis 1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 94 Sea Zone British attack with 4 fighters Italians defend with 1 destroyer British roll dice for 4 fighters in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 94 Sea Zone British win with 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Tanganyika Territory to Egypt 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory 1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia British take Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 infantry moved from India to West India 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Burma to India 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State 1 infantry moved from India to Burma 1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil British take Brazil from Neutral_Allies 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar 1 mech_infantry moved from Eire to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from Iceland to United Kingdom 1 bomber moved from Iceland to Gibraltar 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 123 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 94 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar Place Units - British 1 mech_infantry placed in Union of South Africa 1 airfield and 1 factory_minor placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 119 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 106 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,1 British collect 27 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 27 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 7 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 7 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0.67 Italians regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : 1.00 British regular : 0.00 -
@axis-dominion just an FYI that I dont ever plan on leaving the UK bb alone and abandoned. So if you see it so, I would appreciate a reminder as I tend to forget to move it until Anzac rolls along.
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@ksmckay said in 2020 Championship: axis-dominion vs ksmckay (+22):
@axis-dominion just an FYI that I dont ever plan on leaving the UK bb alone and abandoned. So if you see it so, I would appreciate a reminder as I tend to forget to move it until Anzac rolls along.
of course
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.1.0
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Politics - Italians Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Bessarabia Italians take Bessarabia from Russians 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland Italians take Eastern Poland from Russians 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo Italians take Belgian Congo from British 1 artillery moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to French Equatorial Africa Italians take French Equatorial Africa from French Combat - Italians Battle in Crete Battle in Malta Non Combat Move - Italians 1 artillery moved from Syria to Iraq Italians take Iraq from Neutral_Axis 1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk 1 infantry moved from Kenya to Italian Somaliland 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to French Equatorial Africa 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania 1 aaGun moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 1 aaGun moved from Yugoslavia to Romania Place Units - Italians 1 transport placed in 97 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 21 PUs Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 24 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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sorry, I might make a small change with italy. hold up (but shouldn’t affect franz)
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.1.0
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Politics - Italians Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Bessarabia Italians take Bessarabia from Russians 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland Italians take Eastern Poland from Russians 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo Italians take Belgian Congo from British 1 artillery moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to French Equatorial Africa Italians take French Equatorial Africa from French Combat - Italians Battle in Crete Battle in Malta Non Combat Move - Italians 1 artillery moved from Syria to Iraq Italians take Iraq from Neutral_Axis 1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk 1 infantry moved from Kenya to Italian Somaliland 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to French Equatorial Africa 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania 1 aaGun moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 1 aaGun moved from Yugoslavia to Romania Place Units - Italians 1 transport placed in 97 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 21 PUs Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 24 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Eastern Poland: 1 armour EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Bessarabia: 1 armour EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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plz accept latest. just moved tank to Bessarabia from e.poland
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actually one more small change in Europe, hold up
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never mind, it’s good now
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@ksmckay I see ur point now.
AD positioned the fleet J2 in a way the Allies cannot bring their fleet in position to kill TTs after J3. True, this makes the J3 tough to deal with. I haven’t been confronted with this yet so not sure whether the Allies can give the Axis tough choices by eg putting boats in 54 or 39 or by using blockers.
Also, can Allies build Usa1 in a way they stack 54 and, if being attacked, have a counter?
Assuming usa builds eg 2 subs and maybe a bomber? Just throwing some ideas in. Sounds like an interesting challenge to find an appropriate response to this Japanese opening. -
I understand my comment above waa too much. I apologize for that. Some beers involved. Enjoy your game
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Blockers dont really work because there is so much air power and Japan doesnt have to DOW on all the allies. So if you block with just anzac/UK you can just DOW and on US and just wreck a stacked US fleet with air alone. or if you block with US you can skip the DOW on US and clean up a bunch of ships. Either way it costs a bunch of blockers and doesnt necessarily hinder japan anyway. I dont know the consequences of trading a fleet to a slaughter at the cost of not doing a full DOW so perhaps thats worth donating a portion of the fleet but it seems doubtful.
US builds can only be used to stack 26 which can be blocked with singe DD and allies cant get to 39. everything else wont be able to do anything till J4.
Its by no means the end of the game but it does put Japan into a reliably very strong position. And comes with the benefits of keeping US out of the war in Europe which is nice for them. But it does make India a bit stronger, particularly if they grab Sum. If they get too greedy, it still lets you go for a traditional J2 as the opening for this is identical to a J2 opening.
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@jdow didnt get the blockers all quite right but the point is you would have to double block (2 dds each zone from diff powers) to protect a 54 fleet which is a lot to donate or else risk Japan just DOWing on UK/ANZAC or US alone.
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.1.0
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 destroyer, 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Queensland to New Zealand 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to 55 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch 1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone Place Units - ANZAC 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs Combat Move - French Combat - French Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 3
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.1.0
Game History
Round: 3 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 destroyers, 1 infantry, 7 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States Germans take Baltic States from Russians 1 destroyer moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone -
doubt you’d scramble here, but just in case
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