ABH and crockett36, (A+69) tutor game

[trulpen]

I haven’t studied the map yet, but usually anything you stack in Leningrad R2 is dead. Advisable therefore to stack in Belarus and maybe build 3 inf in Leningrad.

[crockett36]

@trulpen we need to study map. He won’t have the force multipliers in the attacks. Defense will be more deadly

[crockett36]

I need to do the Moscow calculator too

[crockett36]

@crockett36 how about this. I think i can keep leningrad, ukraine for one more turn. and let the russian figs defend yunnan. All of that and still turtle back to Moscow? Am I right?

[crockett36]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 2

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 artilleries and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 15 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
        9 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
        2 fighters moved from Kazakhstan to Yunnan
        1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
        6 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey

    Place Units - Russians
        3 infantry placed in Novgorod
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Ukraine
        6 infantry placed in Russia

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[crockett36]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 artilleries and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 15 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
        9 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
        2 fighters moved from Kazakhstan to Yunnan
        1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
        6 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey

    Place Units - Russians
        3 infantry placed in Novgorod
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Ukraine
        6 infantry placed in Russia
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Vologda: 8 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Vologda: 85 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Vologda: 4 aaGuns
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Vologda: 5 artilleries
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Vologda: 2 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Smolensk: 26 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Smolensk: 13 mech_infantrys
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Smolensk: 15 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Smolensk: 2 bombers and 2 tactical_bombers
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Smolensk: 3 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Smolensk: 8 armour and 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Smolensk: 6 tactical_bombers
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Smolensk: 5 bombers
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Smolensk: 5 artilleries
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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[crockett36]

So this is what I estimate the battle for Moscow to look like if we turtle. Smolensk vs Vologda.

[crockett36]

@crockett36 we win btw

[surfer]

@crockett36 what is the estimated battle?

[crockett36]

@surfer

[crockett36]

@crockett36 smolensk vs Vologda

[crockett36]

@crockett36 said in ABH and crockett36, (A+69) tutor game:

@crockett36 smolensk vs Vologda

8 tanks, 1 mech next turn, all dive bombers turn after, all bombers turn after. Sound correct?

[crockett36]

@crockett36 sorry, that was projected German purchases. Russian man spam.

[trulpen]

@crockett36 said in ABH and crockett36, (A+69) tutor game:

@crockett36 how about this. I think i can keep leningrad, ukraine for one more turn. and let the russian figs defend yunnan. All of that and still turtle back to Moscow? Am I right?

It basically looks good. I reiterate. Would by only inf saving 2 IPC. Means R will be able to build 13 inf instead of 12 next turn.

Italy can’t can-open the Baltic now, which is good.

I would prefer to keep stuff in Belarus and W Ukraine, keeping pressure on E Poland. This is not so important though, since R can’t force the hand anyway if/when G stacks there.

However, Ukraine is rather safe and if G wants to trade 2 mech, 1 tank for 3 inf, then it’s good for us.

The air to Yunnan might be good, but not sure it’s needed. J has positive odds, but negative TUV, anyway. Think the air might be better in Caucasus, helping with the crush of Iraq.

UK will be able to swing in 4 inf, 2 fig, 1 sb for a strafe. Maybe want to take that down to 4 inf, 1 fig, 1 sb to avoid killing all the inf.

I’d move the sub to z110 in order to salvage it and join it with the allied fleet later. It will make a bigger impact then as convoy disrupter in the Med and possible can-opener than becoming fish food next turn.

Regarding the battle expectation for Moscow I still think it’s too early to extrapolate. I mean, it’s not really constructive since it may change a lot. Time is better invested in boiling down the overall strategy.

[trulpen]

Despite what has been told about northern pressure I don’t understand what the maneuver to z4 is supposed to achieve. As it is now, it negates the Russian NO so G won’t even have to put a ship in z125 before controlling Archangel. Anyway, we’ll see how it plays out.

[crockett36]

Real deal coming up shortly

[crockett36]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 armour, 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Baltic States
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 15 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        4 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        9 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        6 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
        2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
        2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov

    Place Units - Russians
        3 infantry placed in Ukraine
        9 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 39 PUs

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[crockett36]

abh, Japan is up.

[crockett36]

ABH PLEASE DO NOT OPEN.

This is my guess as to what he will do. I’m in some fibro myalgia pain and trying to distract myself.

[crockett36]

@crockett36 triplea_37451_2rus (2).tsvg