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Lets Talk PT Boats

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Torpedo boats….I like. I think there kind of a different animal that a PT boat, which used machine guns.
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actually they should have a first strike capability like subs. They rely on surprise after all.
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How about torpedo boats attack 2, defend 1, and cost five, otherwise the same as PT boats in terms of movement and hits.
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Lets Talk Landmines

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MY buddy and I tried out landmines on Monday. We made them 5 IPC, covered one border, and basically acted the same way AA guns do, but for land unites. If territory was captured mines are destroyed. Found out these make USSR a bit to powerful, however they did come in handy for Italy as well.
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Let's talk airfields

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@Upside-down_Turtle:

Well, technically tractors are in the game, only they are armed, armored, and have bigger engines. They’re called tanks and half-tracks.

ya, I guess so
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Let's talk Convoys

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I think there is a need for convoy zones in AA global games. They kinda introduced it in AA50. There are several ways to do it.
Have all powers include sz in their NO’s like w/Italy in AA50. Separate sz from the NO’s and create new NO’s for the sea. That way you would have land NO’s & sea NO’s.
**NO’s have been introduced into the game, and would keep things sorta simple. I’m not sure I like that though because it would be an all or nothing deal. Have certain sz worth 1 ipc or so (as Bardoly said) and basically let each power fight over them. Sorry still not to crazy about Germany being in what would be considered a UK zone and getting paid for it. Assign sz to each power and if those zones are in enemy hands it cost you $ or damage markers at your capitol.(could be determined by dice but might cost to much with SBR & rockets) this makes sense because loss of ships would cost $. Assign 3-4 sz to each power as describe by myself and others. If you keep these zones clear of enemy war ships you collect a bonus per sz (1 ipc each) or have the chance of a larger bonus if all sz’s assigned to you are clear. You could in rare cases assign the same sz to 2 powers to add some spark (for Bardoly). In this case it is assumed each power gets more income but by not keeping your convoy zones clear you lose it, results from the ships being sunk.
**As I was typing this out I noticed it might be cool to combine #4 & #5. Say on Germany’s turn it takes control of 2 sz’s assigned to the UK. Uk places 2 damage markers on its capitol. On Uk’s turn it clears those zones so now it gets a bonus to help pay for damage. On second thought I think that would defeat the whole purpose, but in AA their is a counter balance for most things lol.
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Lets Talk 2 Types of Tanks

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This is my ground unit set-up. I’m using the FMG AA Gun (nation specific) as a second artillery piece.

Piece Name Attack Defense Move Cost Special

Soldier 1 Infantry 1 2 1 3

Soldier 2 Commando 2 2 1 4 Sea or Air attack +1

Gun 1 Artillery 2 2 1 4 +1 for 1 infantry

Gun 2 Heavy Artillery 3 2 1 5 +1 for 2 infantry

Truck Motorized Inf. 1 2 2 4 Can Blitz w/ artillery

Half-Track Mech. Infantry 2 2 2 4 Can Blitz

Tank 1 Armor 3 3 2 6 Can Blitz

Tank 2 Heavy Armor 4 4 2 8 Can Blitz
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Lets Talk Coastal Batteries

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Yeah. They can be captured as well. Maybe each fort can modify defense of inf based on the level.

Level 1 boosts i inf defense

Level 2 two inf, and so on.
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Lets Talk Ports

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Pay 6 IPC gain one MP… heck id rather buy a sub for that or 2 infantry or half a bomber… or?

1 extra movement point would definitely alter the game somewhat, because one would be able to affect one’s opponent’s fleet maneuvers, say if he wanted to position subs and/or destroyers.

I think that the simple expedient of putting the ports into the game from the beginning with the +1 movement rule would be nice. So every power would start with at least 1 port, and some would start with several. But building a new port during wartime would have been quite difficult for most of the nations, (I’m talking about the fully functioning ship-building, ship-repairing, aa-defended, kind of port.) so why even have a special piece for ports? Why not just add the +1 movement point ability to any IC which can build naval units? This would make building ICs a little more attractive for the 15 IPCs which you must spend.
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Lets talk Trucks!

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Maybe trucks coluld be an off board abtraction of the overall motorization of your army. Right next to your tech chips you would put the trucks you have purchased. Each truck costs 12 IPCs and allows you to make addtional attacks after your first combat phase. Each truck allows you to attack again with 3 infantry/artllery or 5 tanks/fighters/bombers even if these units have already battled. For the second attack tanks have a movement of 1 and aircraft of 3.You do not lose the trucks each time you use them and you can buy more of them each turn. You do lose one truck for battles in the second attack phase for every 5 units the enemy kills, but only if you lose the battle.

I think 12 IPC’s is pretty costly, but that is becasue it is a special investment and is not neccisarily purchased every game by every country.
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Lets Talk Paratroopers!

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• • • Imperious Leader

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@Variable:

I’ll go ahead and add my version of the Paratrooper Rule:

Cost 4, Att 1, Def 1. Delivery method: Your choice, whatever you like best. LH rule is good (bomber drops one into first hostile zone), or many of the others here are great as well.

Here’s the kicker: Special ability- Match either 1-1 or 1-2 (haven’t play tested enough yet to decide) with DEFENDER’S UNITS, reducing the defender unit by 1 Def.

Example: 1 tank and 1 paratrooper attack 1 infantry and 1 tank. Attackers = 1@3 (tank) and 1@1 (para). Defenders = 1@2 (inf) and 1@2 (tank) instead of 1@3 (tank). If you decide to match 1-2, then defender would be 1@1 (inf) and 1@2 (tank)

Thoughts?

After going back over this a few times, I’ve decided on 1-2 matching. First, the delivery method is a bit complex and expensive. 2, with bases having their own air defense now there is more tactical AA fire on the board. 3, at a 1/1/1/4 unit, they need 2 “points” more to be worth it. So match 'em 1-2 if you use my rules.

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