L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V


  • “Your capital ships (carriers and battleships) in sea zones
    serviced by operative friendly naval bases (including those
    repaired in this turn) are also repaired at this time. There is
    no IPC cost to repair these ships.” (p 12)

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 18

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 18
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 9 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 8 PUs; end with 17 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: French round 18

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 18
    
        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 74 Sea Zone to Kenya
            2 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 74 Sea Zone to Kenya
            1 marine moved from Iraq to 82 Sea Zone
            1 marine and 1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 74 Sea Zone to Tanganyika Territory
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 78 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Tanganyika Territory
            Battle in 83 Sea Zone
                ANZAC attack with 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports
                    ANZAC roll dice for 2 submarines in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 submarines in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    2 submarines owned by the Japanese and 2 submarines owned by the ANZAC lost in 83 Sea Zone
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 83 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 83 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports in 83 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC, 1 carrier owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 83 Sea Zone
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 83 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 3 transports in 83 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 83 Sea Zone
                    2 transports owned by the Japanese lost in 83 Sea Zone
                ANZAC win, taking Tanganyika Territory from Japanese with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 50
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports
            Battle in Kenya
                ANZAC attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Kenya, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Kenya
                ANZAC win, taking Kenya from Japanese with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
    
        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Buryatia from Japanese to Russians
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 submarines moved from 40 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
            4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 55 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Manilla to 36 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kyushu to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            1 fighter moved from 83 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 83 Sea Zone to Egypt
    
        Place Units - ANZAC
            1 fighter placed in Queensland
            1 destroyer placed in 55 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Iraq
    
        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 24 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 27 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 30 PUs
    
        Combat Move - French
    
        Turn Complete - French
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Japanese regular : 0,67
    ANZAC regular : 1,67
    

    Savegame

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    I think the small window to a win has closed. Would you mind giving me some pointers?


  • @max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

    I think the small window to a win has closed. Would you mind giving me some pointers?

    Does this mean you resign and want some strategic analysis?

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    @trulpen yes it does, unless you think i still have a reasonable chance at getting two Victoria Cities


  • @max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

    @trulpen yes it does, unless you think i still have a reasonable chance at getting two Victoria Cities

    I agree, it looks more or less impossible to gain 2 VCs without losing any somewhere else. It’s 2-3 turns before another Moscow crush can be attempted and the Allies are coming on strong from all sides.

    I’ll try to look at the game now.


  • You took down Moscow G5. That’s very early. Kind of took me by surprise there. The conquest of UK-EU was also strong, but more or less a slip by me and good dice (especially when sinking the USN).

    At that point it was very close to an Axis win, since you had 8 VCs for half a round. Allies managed to hang on by a thread, but then got rolling.

    You had problems with Japan, mainly not being able to control Yunnan and chase away the chinese. When UK-Pac felt relieved there came a lot of pressure from them as well. This seriously impacted income.

    Somehow I managed to gain fleet superiority in the Pac and the JN eventually went west to pursue a venture of taking down Cairo. After that J was lost. Perhaps greater focus to match fleet mobilization was needed?

    Germany was very strong, but after the intrusion into Caucasus and the thin lines behind the stronghold the position crumbled and Russia could be liberated.

    The game gives a lot of errors when looking at history, so I can’t make any deeper detailed analysis than ad memoriam.

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    @trulpen

    1. what I remember about Russia is that in favor of reinforcing Moscow you put significant forces on the flanks.
    2. do you remember any significant strategic blunders?
    3. were there times that you remember where you felt relieved that I didn’t exploit a certain situation?
  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    Oh yeah, I also wanted to ask you about Yunnan. I put extra emphasis on trying to take it in the beginning but still failed because the Allies were also determined to keep it. This was my third PTV game, each time as Axis, and I can’t figure out how to take down Yunnan. So I gave up China entirely as I felt it was too expensive to try to take

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    @max334 I also gave up China as I saw the US was adopting a Kill Japan first strategy and so I needed the money for sea power


  • @max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

    1. what I remember about Russia is that in favor of reinforcing Moscow you put significant forces on the flanks.

    Yes, wanted to pressure Germany, but it was simply bad play on my part. You did well to take advantage of it.

    1. do you remember any significant strategic blunders?

    Maybe Yunnan then, but I was doing big efforts of making it difficult and costly.

    1. were there times that you remember where you felt relieved that I didn’t exploit a certain situation?

    Can’t say I do. You took both Moscow and London, which both were heavy setbacks for the Allies. I would have to be able to look at the game more closely in order to find out more about it.


  • @max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

    @max334 I also gave up China as I saw the US was adopting a Kill Japan first strategy and so I needed the money for sea power

    That’s a problem for J, to get enough land-units into Asia. Maybe even more effort was needed to subdue China, especially since that conquest also funds the needed fleet mobilization.


  • Eventually J’s economy inflated and then collapsed. As you point out, it’s necessary to be able to contest the ocean.


  • Btw, just a formality, but would you like to report the result in the post results thread?

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    @trulpen we dont need formalities

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