L21 PtV FlyingBadger (AL) vs AetV (AX+8)

[FlyingBadger]

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 3 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Americans
        Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
        Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
        Trigger Russians Allied Americans 6: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
        Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States
        Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States
        Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States
        Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States
        Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States
        Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States

    Combat Move - Americans
        Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans
        1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 104 Sea Zone
        2 armour, 4 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 4 transports moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        2 armour, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Morocco

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 88 Sea Zone to Brazil
              Americans take Brazil from Neutral_Allies
        1 marine moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 marine and 1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 105 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 marines moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 marines, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 marines, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 31 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 marines moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 destroyer moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Americans
        2 transports placed in 104 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer placed in 104 Sea Zone
        3 infantry placed in Eastern United States
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 11 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 63 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        3 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Chahar
        1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Shansi

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Chahar
            Chinese attack with 3 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Chahar, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar
            Chinese win, taking Chahar from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Shansi
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shansi, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shansi
            Chinese win, taking Shansi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Shansi to Tsinghai
        9 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Tsinghai

    Place Units - Chinese
        4 infantry placed in Tsinghai

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 11 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Germany
        1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
        2 fighters moved from Eastern India to Yunnan
        1 armour moved from Egypt to Alexandria
              British take Alexandria from Italians
        1 armour moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        1 infantry moved from British Somaliland to Italian Somaliland
              British take Italian Somaliland from Italians
        1 infantry moved from Iraq to Syria
              British take Syria from Neutral_Axis

    Combat - British
        Strategic bombing raid in Germany
                Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_major
            Bombing raid in Germany causes 6 damage total. 
        Battle in Yunnan
            British attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
            British win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 fighters moved from Yunnan to Eastern India
        3 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma
        2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 73 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 73 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Western India
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Quebec to 109 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 109 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from British Somaliland to 78 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 78 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 83 Sea Zone to Egypt
        2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
        1 artillery moved from Iraq to Southern Persia
        1 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Northeast Persia
              British take Northeast Persia from Neutral_Allies
        2 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Baluchistan
        1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 82 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter moved from 83 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Finland

    Place Units - British
        1 factory_minor placed in Southern Persia
        1 destroyer and 1 fighter placed in 112 Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 35 PUs; end with 36 PUs
        Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 45 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Eastern India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs; end with 9 PUs
        Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 12 PUs
        Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 fighter and 2 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -1.17
Japanese regular : -1.00
Germans AA : -0.17
British regular : -0.17

Savegame

[aequitas-et-veritas]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 3

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 unit repaired.
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 116 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
              Italians take Alexandria from British
        1 armour moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
        1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
              Italians take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Eastern Poland
            Italians attack with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland
            Italians win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0,17
Russians regular : -0,33

Savegame

[aequitas-et-veritas]

@FlyingBadger I had to leave yesterday bc my Fish tank broke.
I set up a sz 100 (I was able to allready roll this battle wich resulted in a DD kill and a dent Ita BB) and now the E.Pola take with zero casualties for Ita. But I missed to place my Ita Bmbr right to perform a battle on that Rus CR wich you will find in the following Map/file.

I hope that I explained the issue correctly and that you are ok with the way I handled it.

All rolles should be in your Marti Emails.

[aequitas-et-veritas]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 unit repaired.
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Eastern Poland: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by French from 100 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 117 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
              Italians take Alexandria from British
        1 armour moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
        1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
              Italians take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
              Italians take Eastern Poland from Russians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in 117 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 bomber
            Russians defend with 1 cruiser
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber in 117 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 117 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 117 Sea Zone
            Italians win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
            Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Crete from Neutral_Allies to Italians
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 bomber moved from 117 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Crete
        1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
              Italians take Algeria from Neutral_Axis
        1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Italians
        1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
        1 armour placed in Northern Italy
        1 fighter placed in Southern Italy
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to 100 Sea Zone: 1 marine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Southern Italy: 1 marine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs
        Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0,50
Russians regular : -0,50

Savegame

[FlyingBadger]

TripleA Turn Summary: ANZAC round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia
        1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
        1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[FlyingBadger]

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia
        1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
        1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[aequitas-et-veritas]

@flyingbadger said in L21 PtV FlyingBadger (AL) vs AetV (AX+8):

@aequitas-et-veritas

I’ve probably played about 6 or so games of PtV as the Allies, most German openings have been taking Normandy and Paris whilst attacking chunks of the Royal Navy. Triggering Vichy seems the right thing to do also. Your purchase of the major IC was interesting and would like to see the long term affect of Germany being able continually drop a lot of units close to both Russia and the Middle East.

That purchase does free up the British to buy offensively on UK1. My initial reaction was that it would allow Germany to aggresively push through Ukraine and into the Middle East and get around Moscow or towards India depending on strategy, dice, etc… but at the expense of giving Russia or the UK opportunities elsewhere on early turns.

I liked the mix of units purchase G2 and G3. You’re not badly poised with Germany for the assault on Russia, especially in the south, and the only Allied shipping is on the other side of the Atlantic. Italy is controlling most of the Med as well so that’s one less thing for Germany to have to worry about at the moment (I have been much more aggresive towards Italy in more recent games as the PtV objectives can let Italy become a difficult problem for the Allies if not given enough attention).

Russia does have a bit more of a sting in PtV, in another game I have captured Finland with nothing in Norway to stop me and have nearly 60 IPCs of income on turn 3!

I’ve attached the save file from the best German play I’ve experienced so far, Adam514 is kicking my butt in this game (I have just offered him a draw if he asks nicely :wink: ).
triplea_37205_8jap.tsvg

I’m not the most experienced player but those are my thoughts for what they are worth. If you have specific questions I’m happy to try and answer them. I will be asking you for feedback once the game is settled.

It was very interresting to read your thoughts and opinions about our game and PtV in general. For my self, i have nearly the same thoughts as you.

If one side does bad, you still have the other side of the whole theatre.
What really frustrated me was the fact that PtV has a much greater impact than BM3/4 on this matter I think. While you now have more options with Japan, the time window for Germany is closeing in faster.

Maybe that would be the propper solution to play PtV without a bid at all by simply extend the supplyline EUS vs Gibraltar by one additional SZ.
But this needs to be discussed elsewhere and should not come now from me since I play Axis and would wish for some sort of inner relief :blush:

At least I also know that I am doing not sooo bad, wich is something.

[aequitas-et-veritas]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans repair damage of 3x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 50 PUs; 
        Germans buy 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Southern Belarus
              Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians
        6 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Baltic States
        4 armour, 5 artilleries, 27 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        2 bombers moved from Germany to Finland
        1 fighter moved from 116 Sea Zone to Finland

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[aequitas-et-veritas]

Scramble the Baltic States with three available Ftr’s?

[FlyingBadger]

@aequitas-et-veritas said in L21 PtV FlyingBadger (AL) vs AetV (AX+8):

Scramble the Baltic States with three available Ftr’s?

No thanks.

[FlyingBadger]

@aequitas-et-veritas said in L21 PtV FlyingBadger (AL) vs AetV (AX+8):

@flyingbadger said in L21 PtV FlyingBadger (AL) vs AetV (AX+8):

@aequitas-et-veritas

I’ve probably played about 6 or so games of PtV as the Allies, most German openings have been taking Normandy and Paris whilst attacking chunks of the Royal Navy. Triggering Vichy seems the right thing to do also. Your purchase of the major IC was interesting and would like to see the long term affect of Germany being able continually drop a lot of units close to both Russia and the Middle East.

That purchase does free up the British to buy offensively on UK1. My initial reaction was that it would allow Germany to aggresively push through Ukraine and into the Middle East and get around Moscow or towards India depending on strategy, dice, etc… but at the expense of giving Russia or the UK opportunities elsewhere on early turns.

I liked the mix of units purchase G2 and G3. You’re not badly poised with Germany for the assault on Russia, especially in the south, and the only Allied shipping is on the other side of the Atlantic. Italy is controlling most of the Med as well so that’s one less thing for Germany to have to worry about at the moment (I have been much more aggresive towards Italy in more recent games as the PtV objectives can let Italy become a difficult problem for the Allies if not given enough attention).

Russia does have a bit more of a sting in PtV, in another game I have captured Finland with nothing in Norway to stop me and have nearly 60 IPCs of income on turn 3!

I’ve attached the save file from the best German play I’ve experienced so far, Adam514 is kicking my butt in this game (I have just offered him a draw if he asks nicely :wink: ).
triplea_37205_8jap.tsvg

I’m not the most experienced player but those are my thoughts for what they are worth. If you have specific questions I’m happy to try and answer them. I will be asking you for feedback once the game is settled.

It was very interresting to read your thoughts and opinions about our game and PtV in general. For my self, i have nearly the same thoughts as you.

If one side does bad, you still have the other side of the whole theatre.
What really frustrated me was the fact that PtV has a much greater impact than BM3/4 on this matter I think. While you now have more options with Japan, the time window for Germany is closeing in faster.

Maybe that would be the propper solution to play PtV without a bid at all by simply extend the supplyline EUS vs Gibraltar by one additional SZ.
But this needs to be discussed elsewhere and should not come now from me since I play Axis and would wish for some sort of inner relief :blush:

At least I also know that I am doing not sooo bad, wich is something.

You’re doing fine, I’ve only played 8 games of PtV about 7 of those as Allies and most opponements have struggled with Germany even though they are experienced in other versions of the game.

I’m new to G40, BM and PtV so I’m learning each at the same time, but I maybe players who are used to G40 and BM are having a hard time unlearning that Russia is easy to take. They have a bigger income and the map is harder for a quick strike towards Moscow, perhaps the most improtant change is the loss of Russian factories on capture. These all mean the Germany can quickly lose momentum against Russia, however if it’s other fronts hold then they will grind down Russia eventually. I experience this in G40, BM and PtV because I’m learning how to optimally play Germany all all forms of the game. Maybe you are just not matching your own expections, but maybe the expectations need to be recalibrated for now!

I like your idea of making the mid-Atlantic bigger, and could balance well with Russia’s ability to stand for longer. I would find it nice if the Allies were forced to convoy via Iceland as I’m always interested in doing things the historic way (but only if it makes competitive sense).

[FlyingBadger]

@aequitas-et-veritas You got me thinking…

If the Allies were doscouraged from being able to easily shuttle across to N.Africa then it might make it worth them going via Iceland, a harbour there would allow going into the Channel, or even attack Denmark. Could go down (Caribbean or Brazil) to come up to N.Africa or maybe France, depending on the sea zones connections. I’m sure there would be lots of unintended consequences, but it is an interesting idea.

[FlyingBadger]

@aequitas-et-veritas LOL, forgot to mention the important bit, which is altering the sea zones off Nova Scotia so it connects to E.US so units built there could go straight to Iceland.

[FlyingBadger]

@aequitas-et-veritas Hang on, the last post was gibberish, I seem to be struggling counting to either 2 or 3 :drooling_face: The north Atlantic is already well set up for a 2 step Iceland shuttle, it’s the ease of going across to the safety of Gibraltar / Morocco in 1 move that makes it the go to route.

[aequitas-et-veritas]

@flyingbadger yeah basically put a half circle arround Gibraltar/Morroco and it is fixed.
This woul also come closer to the historical part. Since it took a while for the US to cross the Atl…

[aequitas-et-veritas]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans repair damage of 3x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 50 PUs; 
        Germans buy 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Southern Belarus
              Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians
        6 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Baltic States
        4 armour, 5 artilleries, 27 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        2 bombers moved from Germany to Finland
        1 fighter moved from 116 Sea Zone to Finland

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Ukraine
            Germans attack with 4 armour, 5 artilleries, 27 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 5 artilleries, 27 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 10/37 hits, 9,33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
            Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 4 armour, 5 artilleries, 27 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Baltic States
            Germans attack with 6 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Baltic States, round 2 : 7/15 hits, 6,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
            Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 6 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
        Battle in Finland
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 fighter
            British defend with 1 bomber; Russians defend with 1 armour
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 fighter in Finland, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 bomber in Finland, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the Russians, 1 bomber owned by the Germans and 1 bomber owned by the British lost in Finland
            Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 bomber
            Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
            Casualties for British: 1 bomber
        Trigger Germans Destroy Factories Ukraine: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Germans in Ukraine

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Trigger Ukraine Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Ukraine_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans
        1 bomber moved from Finland to Western Germany
        1 fighter moved from Finland to 115 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 116 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to France
        1 aaGun moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 aaGun moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        2 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine
        1 armour moved from Romania to Ukraine
        2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        3 infantry placed in France
        1 fighter placed in Western Germany
        2 destroyers placed in 115 Sea Zone
        3 infantry placed in Romania
        2 infantry placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs
        Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 49 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0,33
Germans regular : 2,17

Savegame

[FlyingBadger]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Southern Belarus
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Southern Belarus
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Leningrad to Southern Belarus

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Southern Belarus
            Russians attack with 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Russians roll dice for 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Southern Belarus
            Russians win, taking Southern Belarus from Germans with 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Belarus to Russia
        2 aaGuns and 3 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus
        2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland
        2 infantry moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
        6 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Kursk to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Tambov to Rostov
        1 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Northern Caucasus
        2 infantry moved from Tambov to Stalingrad
        3 infantry moved from Timguska to Urals
        2 aaGuns and 9 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
        3 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
        1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Russians
        1 armour, 3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Stalingrad
        3 infantry placed in Urals
        1 infantry placed in Leningrad

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 46 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 48 PUs
        Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 50 PUs
        Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 52 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 55 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -0.33
Russians regular : 0.17

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 4 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
        1 fighter moved from Southern Manchuria to Chahar
        2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Shansi
        1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Shansi

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Shansi
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 1 bomber
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 bomber in Shansi, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 bomber in Shansi, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Shansi
            1 bomber owned by the Japanese retreated
            Chinese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
        Battle in Chahar
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Chinese defend with 3 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar
            1 fighter owned by the Japanese retreated
            Chinese win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        1 aaGun moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        1 bomber moved from Shansi to Jehol
        1 fighter moved from Chahar to Jehol
        1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Manilla
        1 marine moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        2 battleships, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 marine, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Celebes to 45 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 marine moved from 44 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 38 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 132 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 armour moved from Malaya to French Indo China
        1 destroyer moved from 38 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
        2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria
        1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        1 marine moved from 7 Sea Zone to Japan
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Caroline Islands
        1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kweichow
        1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Anhwe
        1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kiangsi
        1 artillery moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Manilla
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 44 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 44 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 transport placed in 7 Sea Zone
        1 factory_minor placed in Malaya
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in French Indo China
        3 infantry placed in Southern Manchuria
        1 artillery placed in Japan
        1 harbour placed in Borneo
        1 destroyer placed in 7 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 60 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 2,00
Japanese regular : -2,17

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 artillery, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
        1 infantry moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Guam
        1 destroyer and 3 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Morocco to 93 Sea Zone
        1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tunisia
        1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone
        2 armour, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Morocco to Algeria
        2 infantry moved from Brazil to French Guiana
              Americans take French Guiana from Neutral_Axis

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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@aequitas-et-veritas Scramble to SZ113?